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thats dumb

its better for people to know characters current occupation so there more up to date people on soap message boards dont even know who owns what company why not put victor nemwan as co-ceo of newman because thats his current title

We have done that for years. We keep the occupation general, so please stop adding the specific occupation. Please sign with ″~ ~ ~ ~″ at the end of a message.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 15:54, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

no it hasnt

occupations a few years ago were always current and specific look at chancellor industries it says there company is public when its really private and it says chancellor own jabot when it hasnt owned jabot in 2 years thats why it needs to be specific — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davonct (talk • contribs) 15:58, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, but we do not do it specificly. If a character has worked in a buisness, we call him a Businessman, if it a woman Businesswoman.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 16:02, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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I no longer what to create this page. So what I am suppose to do.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 16:14, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

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Truthfully, I don't see much that's ready to be promoted other than a couple of awards lists. Most of the lists at FLC just haven't received enough reviews yet. I'll look at FLC over the weekend and promote/archive as needed. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:22, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

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Infobox soap character 2

Hi, just in case you did not notice by the template's documentation. The standard infobox is Template:Infobox soap character. [[ Template:Infobox soap character 2 should only be used for EastEnders characters. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:45, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Nope, we started to uses them for other series soap characters if you did not notice, Steffy Forrester, Sharon Newman and others.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 14:02, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Then one of the two infoboxes is useless. I recall a discussion in 2008 or 2010 against detailed relationships in infoboxes of soap characters. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:13, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Well, not really since General Hospital characters uses the standard infobox. Well, I guess the rule has changed since we have been using that infobox for a long time now.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 14:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies! Let's continue at Template_talk:Infobox_soap_character_2#Infobox_needs_to_be_replaced_in_many_many_cases. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:17, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Please refrain...

...from leaving me demanding messages to attend to your specific requirements. You've done this too many times now, despite me telling you I'll get back to the lists you've nominated at FLC. I don't know (or really care) what this "September" deadline you've mentioned is all about but where I'm from, we know "there is no deadline" on Wikipedia. Thanks. The Rambling Man (talk) 14:21, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

I was not giving you demanding messages. I am sorry if you thought I was doing that. I was asking for you to respond to you're comments before September, I am starting school again. Btw, because of you my list was not promoted. You already give comments before don't see why you had to give some again. I am sorry again.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 14:26, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Well at least two other editors were surprised at what you had written. I will always comment if I see things that either others or I have missed, either in a specific review or in reviews of similar lists. I'm sure would agree that maximising quality of our lists is paramount to the FLC process, not just rushing them through to promotion, right? The Rambling Man (talk) 14:33, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I agree. I am sorry again, I just have 4 lists that I need to nominate before September. That obviously not going to happen so I need the promotion to go a bit faster. Do not get me wrong, I am very grateful of you're comments and I apologize.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 14:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Oscar for Best Actor

Hi, there.

I think we can begin renovations for Academy Award for Best Actor to featured list status. BTW, I lent some support to your Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series list.

-Birdienest81 (talk) 23:39, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

RE: Best Actor Oscar

Hello, there:

I got your message, and I'm cool with doing the prose. Please be warned that it might take awhile though. In the meantime, I'm putting photos of notable nominees and winners to the right of the table. Can you make sure that no one deletes the photos or reverts any changes without good reason. If someone asks why we are making changes, tell him or her that we are making this list into a featured list. Oh, I did support your Outstanding Lead Actor Drama list. Keep up the good work!

-Birdienest81 (talk) 00:27, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, please do. I know it is very knowledgeable. However, this list only refers to Best LEAD Actor only. Likewise, you may also delete the portion regarding multiple nominees for combined Actor and Supporting Actor. I also would like the "Life expectancy of Oscar winners" removed, it's a nice anecdote which could be true, but we're only referring to the winners as winners. Plus, the tone of those facts don't fit Wikipedia standards as shown in your Daytime Emmy acting awards lists.

-Birdienest81 (talk) 20:34, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely! It would make my work easier. -Birdienest81 (talk) 21:08, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

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Academy Award for Best Actor

That's fine, although I would point out that four minor edits does not constitute "lots of changes". Of the three most recent, one was to put back a perfectly valid note about Paul Muni that you or Birdienest81 had removed without explanation, one was to correct mistakes on spelling and placement made by Birdienest81 and one was to correct a mistake made by you, which was when you started a sentence on Daniel Day-Lewis but unfortunately failed to finish it. L1975p (talk) 13:49, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Yes, you may. However, please also support Wikipedia:FLC#62nd_Academy_Awards so that I may have enough support to have another FLC.

-Birdienest81 (talk) 20:40, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

FLC comments

I'll take a look at that list tomorrow and see if I find anything worth commenting on. Meanwhile, if you're worried about how often FLCs get promoted, your best strategy is to post on FLC talk, where others can see your concern. I try to go through the FLCs at least every other week, although I've been doing it every week lately. There are several other directors and delegates, and my feeling is that they should be given an opportunity to do closures too. The last thing I'd want is to be accused of owning the whole process, and I don't have the time needed to do much more than what I do now anyway. Again, you'll gain a bigger audience for your opinion at the process' talk page. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:12, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I was not accusing you of owning the whole process quite the opposite you are doing a fantastic job. I am just saying that the other directors/delegates have not been active as much as they used to be and I was wondering why? Thanks again! Also, I think you should promote some lists today, my list has been a month, with a high level of supports. — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 00:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

RE: FLC comments

Well, I didn't promise, per se, sorry if it was misinterpreted. Due to school I can't check FAs, FLs, or GAs, because they take me a few hours to check them. I just finished a three weeks backlog of vandalism/disruptive edits reverts. But I can't this time. Until December or so, if you have another nomination, you can contact me for review it, but in the next three months I can't check them. Tbhotch.^™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 17:56, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Thoughts

Hey Soap. I have seen that sometimes you have a hard time dealing with several situations that you usually don't consider to be "fair" from your standpoint, or to be stalking from other users. Also, I have seen that when a user tells you that they would do something, and then that person is unable to do what they said they would, you get upset and start making comments you later regret. You have done so at my talk page, at Rambling's talk page, etcetera. And that brings me here. I am sure that this is not done on purpose from your part, but nonetheless a change is needed.

First, you cannot go and start making comments you will later apologize for. It's not good for you, and not good for other users either. This is a good example of what I'm talking about. Both The Rambling Man, Giants2008 and I are entitled to lay an eye above all the FLC pages, and we (to some extent) are the holders of the last word in several matters like number of nominations, promotions and archivings. Telling to one of us that we are stalking you is incorrect; it's our job to take care of any FLC-wise, and we won't stop doing it just because you don't like it. There are rules that we must follow on this website, and they apply to all of us.

Second, I didn't want to mention this to you before, but I see that I have to. Constantly asking the directors/delegates to promote your lists is something you must avoid at all costs, and for two reasons: i) we are aware of the queue and we usually take a look at all these lists constantly, and if we don't promote a list is because we think it's not ready yet and not because we're lazy; ii) it only delays the process further, as we are likely to extent the promotion time just to see if somebody comments. The fact that a list gets three or four supports in two days doesn't mean it's ready for promotion.

Finally, I applaud your hard work doing these lists, but I also have to encourage you to be more patient and careful with your comments and actions toward other people. As I said above, you cannot write some angry comments and then say you're sorry. Instead, think of it before hitting the save button and evaluate different approaches. Remember that if you are kind to people, they will be kind to you too. Nobody is forced to review your lists, even if they told you they will. Most users have a real life they have to attend. Some of them are lawyers, businessmen, who knows. I am a writer, for example, and I cannot always focus on Wikipedia. Cheers. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 21:23, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

I do not know what to say. You are spot on everything. I feel that everyone (Giants, The Rambling Man and you) is against me now and no one is defending me which you guys have right to be due to my recent behavior. I am sorry and I hope we could get pass this and forget what this ever happen. I never wanted to have trouble in wikipedia and it here it happen. Again, I am sorry. Sometimes, I get confuse beetween personal and wiki life. I was neglected in my personal life and when I get ignore here and I intend to overreact which I am very sorry. Therefore, I will stop asking for comments (I will only ask to close friends users) and to promote my lists. Which, I did not want to sound to promote my list, I was just giving a suggestion (that does not even matter, you would not believe me any way since you guys say its canvassing). Its because school start very soon and I do not think I would be as active as usual I do not want to come on wikipedia and I have multiple comments form different users. If it was any different time, I would obvouisly chut up but that no excuse there is no deadline (I wish there was, lol). I am sorry and I would keep everything single thing you said in mind. Thanks for telling me kindly and I really appreciated. I am so sorry for this. :(  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 23:06, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

We are not against you. Even if it looks like, what we are trying to do is to show you the right path :) Also, you don't need to apologize (not to me, at least). What you need to do is, as you said, take this advice and be more careful next time. Sadly, not all users will come and leave a friendly message like I did (I which they did) to let you know that something you did is not right. Usually, they just shout at you and I wouldn't like that to happen. Now, about FLC, I wish we had a dealine too. Sometimes, well most of the time, I have to wait a month to get my lists passed, and that's the standard time. When a list reaches two months in the queue, something bad is happening. At least we are faster than GAN ;) Additionally, it is very unlikely that somebody is ignoring you. With the high amout of work most people do here (mixed with their real life obligations), what usually happens is that they miss some messages (I usually do!). Even if they answer other messages but not yours, remember that we must assume good faith and leave a friendly reminder to that user who may have overlooked your request :) — ΛΧΣ²¹ 23:46, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for saying those kinds words. I really apreciated. Thanks!  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 23:50, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

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SoapFan, I find myself sort of confused. You say that you have no interest in becoming a director, yet want to know how you would go about starting the process. Either you want the position or you don't, and if you do you're better off being honest about it. I couldn't support someone who wasn't honest about their interest level, and I doubt many others would either. If you are interested, there is no formal place to "sign up" for the position; we take it a little more seriously than that. Traditionally, FLC has either had elections for new directors/delegates, or newcomers have been chosen by other directors and then ratified by the greater community. I don't want to have that level of power, so I'd like to see elections for at least one replacement for TRM, preferably two. If an election is started, you're as free to put yourself up for discussion as anybody else. If you want to see what the process might be like, there's Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Delegate election, which features myself coming in second in a one-horse race. I will warn you that all of your behaviors would be put on trial in an election, just as they would be in an adminship request, and that you will probably need more experience reviewing lists before the community would support you. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:38, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

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RE:Academy Award for Best Actor

As much as I like to nominate it for featured list status, I feel it is not yet ready to be nominated because of the issues dealing the Ref column in the winners table dealing with Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series. I looked at a similar list in Golden Globe Award for Best Original Score and saw that the Ref column was not colored at all. So after much tinkering. I think the table should look something like this:

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1927/28 (1st)	Emil Jannings‡	The Last Command The Way of All Flesh	Grand Duke Sergius Alexander August Schilling
	Richard Barthelmess	The Noose The Patent Leather Kid	Nickie Elkins Patent Leather Kid

If you can do this for the table, I believe User:Giants2008 will have less of a problem with it. Then you may nominate the list! Also, as much as I get excited about my lists being promoted, I try to avoid pestering other proofreaders too much. I highly respect your hard work, but I just want to make sure that our nomination does not get slowed down because of unnecessary pestering and arguments. Usually from my experience, lists take about a month to get promoted.

-Birdienest81 (talk) 00:07, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Featured lists

I have just reviewed your nomination for the "Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series" list. Fortunately, I did not notice anything wrong. Can I ask in return a review for Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Golden Martín Fierro Award winners/archive1? It's also a list of awards, except that it has no specific type of recipients (it may be given to either people or programs, of any genre), and that it does not have nominations. Thanks in advance. Cambalachero (talk) 21:11, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Will do soon.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 22:18, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

RE:Academy Award for Best Actor

Yes. I actually also have at least three other Oscar ceremonies waiting in the wings: 61st Academy Awards, 64th Academy Awards, 68th Academy Awards. So, I think we should wait. In the meantime, you could fix the other acting awards as well even if they are not nominated.

-Birdienest81 (talk) 03:17, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

User page design

Hey there,

I saw your recent conversations with Hahc21 (talk · contribs) (they weren't exactly recent, but I must admit that I haven't been much involved within the talk userface for the past couple of weeks), and I just wanted to let you know that I am not ignoring you. If you could go on Commons and find a picture that you would like to be used as your userpage background, and let me know what it is, I should be able to get to your user page design this weekend. Also any specific userboxes that you would like to be included. I've just started my first year of college, so I've been pretty preoccupied, mostly just making mainspace edits here and there. So I do apologize for making you wait so long.

Best, — Status (talk · contribs) 03:28, 11 September 2013 (UTC)

Emmy FLs

I gave the Daytime Emmy lists their own section. Since I only count one Primetime Emmy list at FL, I'm not sure that's enough to justify moving that one out of the Other section. It was probably time for a new section for these lists, though. Thanks for reminding me. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:43, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! This mean a lot to me to get my work better recongnize! You'r welcome it was my pleasure. Furthermore, I wanted to apologize for me acting out at pre-FLC, it was irresponsible of me, it was intended to be a joke but I had no right to do that and I made you inconfortable. I am very sorry. Btw, I have responded to you at the pre-flc and everything it is done, i think its ready to be closed, but that is you're descision. Thanks again for the review!  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 11:05, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

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Hey

Hey, how have you been? I'm sorry I never responded to your last comment on my talk page, I got busy and just forgot about until now. But it seems like you worked the issues out, so that's good. Have you been watching GH, I've barely had time to, but I just finished catching up, and it's been pretty good lately. what do you think?Caringtype1 (talk) 01:01, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

I am loving GH, I think the Connie's killer is Morgan. How Ava and Morgan have been talking to each other on today's episode and that he confess to her about it and that Connie wanted to framed AJ or Ava since the killer is neither of them. what do you think? Also, I have worked on 39th Daytime Emmy Awards in the past few days, what do you think? I would love to hear you're feedbacks and comments about it, also can you correct the lead ASAP? I would really appreicate this.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:31, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Also, I have a new FLC ongoing and I was wondering if you take time to review it when you get a chance?  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:45, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey, sorry for the delayed response again! lol! I think Morgan turning out to be the killer would be very interesting! I just hope it's not Ava. I'll try to take a look at that article and your FLC tonight.Caringtype1 (talk) 16:07, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

64th Oscars and Daytime Emmy Directing for Soap Opera

Hi there,

Please see Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/64th Academy Awards/archive1 for addressed concerns. I also supported your list.

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68th Oscars (1996)

Hi, I was hoping if you can give me opinions and comments on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/68th Academy Awards/archive1 as you have done for my other Oscar ceremonies? I would like to receive feedback so I could make necessary improvements. If no problems, would you please lend me your support? It will be greatly appreciated! Regards.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 07:18, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

FLC

I wanted to take a weekend off from FLC closures, but felt that the one list needed to be closed because there was a lot of drama surrounding that FLC and a true consensus on a stable version was proving impossible to find. That's why I only did that one list. The others will be promoted soon if they deserve to be, although I wish you would stop asking me to promote your lists with such regularity. A lot of editors do consider that canvassing, or annoying at the very least. If you think the closures are happening too infrequently, you can ask about that issue at the FL delegate election that is ongoing, or even run yourself if you feel that strongly about it. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:19, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

What did I say to make you think I asked you to promote my list in my message? I did not say to promote anything, I was just curious on why you focus on that one list and I saw others that deserved to be promoted or archived and I thought you might of missed those nominations. Therefore, next time don't assume that. For the record, that was very hurtful, it's like you always think the worst of me.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:30, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

You told me on my talk page that you felt the FLC was ready to be promoted. How is that not inherently asking me to promote it? This isn't the first time you've done something like this to myself or The Rambling Man when he was still a director. I noticed that you were putting pressure on Hahc here to explain why he didn't promote your list today. You need to take a step back from posting such messages in the future. As long as you're putting your own lists in these messages, everyone is going to think that you are only pursuing your own interests, even if that isn't your intention. Do you understand why we might feel that way? Giants2008 (Talk) 17:34, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

@Giants2008:, First of all, you did not apologize for hurting me. Which I really do not appreciated. Also, ″you were putting pressure on Hahc″, tell me how did my message sounded like pressure? I ask him kindly if he missed those FLs, because every one makes mistakes therefore I thought that he missed those FLCs and to do their FLC closures. Again, that was very hurtful of you (you are thinking the worst of me). Yes, I understand and I will stop putting my FLs in those message but do not expect me to stop sending those kind of messages because again people makes mistakes and I was just wondering why he did not promoted those lists. You are just very ungrateful that someone like me actually cares about this process. Furthermore, I am so curious on how do you know I send that message to Hahc? Are you looking at my contributions? If so, why?  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 18:44, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

I didn't mean to hurt you and apologize if I did. I checked your recent contributions because I wanted to know if you sent similar messages to anybody besides myself lately, which you did. That's one of the reasons why you have a user contributions tab: so people can inspect what you're doing if necessary. I'm greatly concerned about this, because I don't want to see any harm to an editor's reputation over such a matter. For example, if you decided to run for RFA I guarantee you somebody would make an issue out of it, because they tend to be on the picky side. And please don't accuse me of being ungrateful. There aren't enough people reviewing at any of these processes, and I'm very grateful for any help we can get; such an accusation hurts me greatly and is as de-motivating as anything I can think of. As for Hahc, he may have thought the list needed one more review and left it at FLC for that reason, not because he forgot it. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:23, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

@Giants2008:, I accept your apology and I have no intention on running for RFA or anything else for that matter because I see that there is no point since I know I do not have the capacity to do the job. Furthermore, I apologize for accusing you of being ungrateful, I was just pissed off at you at that moment but it was wrong of me. I am very sorry. Are you talking about my reputation? If so, none of this would have happenned if you would just respond to my question I ask why did you not promoted those lists and you said ″I wanted to take a weekend off from FLC closures, but felt that the one list needed to be closed because there was a lot of drama surrounding that FLC and a true consensus on a stable version was proving impossible to find. That's why I only did that one list.″ Therefore, you should at leave it at that, I would of understand and the case would have been closed but you kept saying that I should asked you to promoted my lists, so if you want blame someone look at the mirror. Do not get me wrong, I did do some awful things in the past which I regret but for this situation I am not the only that should be blame because it was my fault and yours even if you afraid to admitted. However, thank you for caring for my reputation that means a lot, I know I should of not added my list to the message and called you ungrateful but you started this drama. Also, if I did send that same message with not having my FLC on it, what would be your response?  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 10:10, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

I'd find it somewhat unusual to think that we need FLCs closed immediately, but would probably have "left it at that", as you say. That's what I'll do now. Giants2008 (Talk) 11:09, 8 October 2013 (UTC) have done the same if you didn't have a list on the queue? That's why I told you that you'd benefit from thinking carefully what you write to avoid misunderstandings like those you've had lately with the FLC team. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 13:21, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

@Hahc21: I really do not appreciated you interrupting a conversation between me and Giants and this none of your business and I really do not appreciated this. Therefore, how am I suppose to take your advice. Like I said previously to Giants, none of this would happen if he would just respond to my question other than to write other things. Again, how is this any of you're business? I guess we are trading advice, I think it would for you're benefit if you mind you're own business. Fine, I would definitely stop sending those messages.@Giants2008:, I believe that every delegates and directors should check the FLC every weekend and I am going to bring it up at the talk page.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 18:49, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

This is a wiki. Everything you contribute is available to the whole world to see and comment on. Get over it. Your behaviour is becoming close to intolerable. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:39, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

The fact that you came to my talk page trying to do my job is my business. A conversation on your talk page with one of my colleages about a topic I am supposed to be involved in, is my business. If you don't like it, then stop doing the things we tell you to stop doing, and everything would be fine. You don't appreciate our attitude? Well, we don't appreciate yours. — ΛΧΣ²¹ 01:55, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

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Viola! The image that you said you wanted was just to large, so I picked one of many crops of the image that exist. If you'd like a different image used, let me know. I wasn't sure about what you wanted me to do with the navigation, so I just kept the tabs and added a little style. Let me know if there's anything you wanted done differently. Enjoy! — Status (talk · contribs) 02:43, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

@Status: Wow! I am speechless. This was out of my expactations. You do a great amazing job. OMg. My user page is fantastic, beautiful, phenomenal. Can I do anything for you? I am serious, anything? Just name it. Thank you so much for doing this and you are a awesome editor, one of the best I've sen!  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 10:13, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

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68th Oscars

Hi there.

I was wondering if you will be could proofread: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/68th Academy Awards/archive1. I would be grateful for the extra help and support; and if you need help on something, you can ask me. Thanks.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 22:53, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

@Birdienest81:,  Done.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 00:21, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

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@Livelikemusic:, why would you do this me? I am a kid and I am in tears right now because of you. Editing is my passion and you have taken it away from me. I understand that you had good motives and I agree I should of not keep reverting however I absolutely did not know it was a violation, you could of at least warned me to stop and tell it was a violation before reporting me. Please, answer this message because you owe me an explantation. I did nothing to hurt you and I even apologize to you on you're talk page about being a disruptive editor. Again, I did not mean to violate Wikipedia also, why did I not get a warning? I was just blocked with no warning I did not even get a chance. You ruined in my life. Why? Is it revenge from me being annoyance to you? Well apologize with all my heart. I am not angry and I am just crying my eyes out right now and wondering why I am blocked for something I never knew was a violation and did not get a warning to not repeated this incident. I would really appreciate an explanation and response. Thanks!  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 22:22, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

SoapFan, I didn't do anything to you. You brought this upon yourself. It's unacceptable for a member of over a year to not know about the three revert rule. That is simply unacceptable in my eyes. And to try and pull the "kid" card is also wrong, because it's not my intention. But if you're THIS emotional and saying editing is your life, maybe use this time to re-evaluate and re-examine things. It's not healthy to be this worked up over a website. And to say I ruined your life is another alarming statement, and one you should be taking seriously. If you're this hung up on this website, maybe it's good to take this downtime and figure things out. It's alarming. Yes, people get dedicated to editing, but to be this upset when you're suffering a consequence to your actions, is quite alarming to me. As an editor, it's your job to know the policies that we're bound to when we sign up for this website. This has zero to do with hate (as I do not have enough room in my life for hate). Simply saying you didn't know if not an acceptable excuse for breaking policy of this website. If you're expecting sympathy from me, you unfortunately will not be getting it. That might sound harsh, but it's the reality and consequence of your actions for engaging in an edit-war with another editor. You broke the rules of WP:EDITWAR and there's nothing more to be done, unfortunately. An administrator felt you required the 72-hour block, and I won't be objecting to it. Nor will I apologise for doing the right thing in this case. livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 00:12, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

@Livelikemusic:, I understand what I did wrong. But, I had did not even get a warning? Do you think that is fair? A 72-hour break is unbelievable. By the way, I am actually a kid so I am not pulling any cards. I need to edit, please I have so much work I need to do on wikipedia. You did the right thing but I have FLC on-going, and you did not even give me a chance. Again Is that fair? I understand every motives, I brought it on myself, true that. But still, I deserved a chance and you did not give me any. Which I found unacceptable. Come on, I have school on Monday and weekends is when I have time. If you are not going to objected, can you at least reduce it to 24 hours and I promise that you will never have to deal with me ever again. Please, I am begging you and I will do anything if you give me one more chance. Just name it and it will be done. Please! I am desperate.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:03, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

I feel like you're too dependent on Wikipedia, and the way you're talking is alarming. If an Admin asks me, I think you should stay on the block because I don't feel you realize what you've done, given your words right now. Saying you're desperate to edit, and need to come back is not healthy. You won't die without Wikipedia, and if you feel you will, then that's something to be seriously looked into! livelikemusic ^{my talk page!} 01:08, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

@Livelikemusic:, I know what I have done I violated Wikipedia policy and I am feeling my consequences but 72-hours is too much. But, that what I get for not reading Wikipedia's policies therefore I would stop begging you and I apologize for acting out. It's just, I miss wikipedia too much. When I have a bad day, editing just helps me forget about what happen today and then I dealed with the problem but I guess I need to deal with the consequences but I might get a chance to be off the hook since I have asked to be unblocked and hope that the admin accepts it.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:24, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

• To be honest, I know what it's like to be blocked and I understand why you're upset. That said, some of your comments here make me think that you may be taking Wikipedia too seriously. I would suggest you talk to a parent or a trusted adult about your editing to get their perspective on it. Mark Arsten (talk) 01:38, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

@Mark Arsten:, Thanks for the suggestion and I would think about what you said. Thanks again and I left a message on your talk page.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 01:41, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

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61st Oscars

Hi, I was hoping if you can give me opinions and comments on Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/61st Academy Awards/archive1 as you have done for my other Oscar ceremonies? I would like to receive feedback so I could make necessary improvements. It will be greatly appreciated! Regards.

--Birdienest81 (talk) 03:59, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Writing list

Hey, I wasn't trying to be antagonistic to make you drop the nomination, I was trying to help you with improving the article and get it Featured, but you were ignoring it and being rude from the start with "I am dead serious" about dropping the first oppose you got in eight nominations. You can't just use a single source for everything and assume it's infallible, and then omit information that can be found elsewhere. If someone finds some sources for an article, you add them to it and move toward getting a bronze star on the page, not give up. The stuff about the award dimensions is just a quibble but a complete list is vital, and I will be glad to support the article once it's complete, but now readers might not get that. And no, I'm not staying away from future nominations, which I do hope to see and support. You did a fine job on the other seven FLs, but this one needed a bit more. Reywas92^Talk 04:24, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

@Reywas92:, Well, the article is longer my problem since you made it unenjoyable place to work at it. Also, since you found all these infos and you know how FL works you can add all those facts and nominate the article yourself so I can visualise what you want. since I did not really understand what you wanted me to do. I suggest doing it yourself then it would be easier to get it. Why can't you stay away for my future FLs? Shouldn't you be happy that you have one less user to deal with? Please stay away from them since I do not want to go through, what I went through with you again. However I grant you the Writting List therefore add, remove everything you think is needed and I would follow what you did for a future example. What do you think about that?  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 10:34, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry that I made it unenjoyable, I just wanted you to add the winners for 1981 to 1985 and nominees from 1986 to 1990, which the list was missing. There's no future example necessary, you already did a great job with the other FLs and this one is almost there. You know how FL works, and you are welcome to use these articles. I know you can do this, and I'm not trying to put you through anything other than a simple review to ensure these fine articles have all relevant information. Reywas92^Talk 11:31, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

@Reywas92:, Its fine. I suggest you to add the winners for 1981 to 1985 and nominees from 1986 to 1990 since I think a future example is necessay for me and I have no longer interest on working on this article.  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 19:01, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

61st Oscars

Hi there,

I hope you're doing okay there. I'm just politely asking if it is possibly to proofead 61st Academy Awards regarding Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/61st Academy Awards/archive1. I'm sorry about your nominations for the Daytime Emmy Writing Awards. Maybe I can help down the road. I would appreciate the help, though!

--Birdienest81 (talk) 05:52, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

I've added winners for 1982,1983,and 1985. I also added nominees for 1988 and 1989. Unfortunately, I still cannot find credible sources that would warrant enough information for futher more information. And as much as I understand how much you love the lists (I know what it is like), it is best that this list not be renominated for Featured List until ALL information is included in this list. That means also adding the actual persons who received the award and finding valid sources that confirm this. I have to agree with Reywas92 on this one for the sake of fairness for the other list contributors. Also, I can't make too many promises, I am and adult (I resume classes in January) and the Daytime Emmys are a difficult subject to search, but don't give up though.

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Hello there?

Did you read my feedback from above? I did not mean to offend you. I tried to add more info to the list, but I came up too short on some info. It's just that it will take considerable amount of time to do so.

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@Birdienest81:, sorry been very busy! Thanks for the feedback and for adding those further informations! It means a lot! If you can work on the lead also that would be awesome and fix Daytime Emmy Award for Outstanding Drama Series and Directing Team using what you found for Writting Team and find other informations to improve those articles? Please? Thanks in advance. I would review you're list tomorow since I have free time to do so. Thanks again! Have a good one!  — SoapFan12 (talk, contribs) 23:40, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Your participation required

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40th Daytime Emmys

Hello there,

I've decided to take a pause from nominating featured lists until late December. I just wanted give you guys a break after reviewing eight consecutive lists!

BTW, I have one little correction for your list. The phrase In Memoriam should be italicized since the phrase is an uncommon Latin one (see MOS:Ety). Otherwise, I still support it for promotion.

Goodbye for now.

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