Template:Did you know nominations/Patrick Roscoe

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The result was: rejected by Victuallers (talk) 11:17, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Patrick Roscoe[edit]

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~~... that novelist Patrick Roscoe told made-up stories about himself to reporters, explaining years later that his real life was none of their business?~~

Created/expanded by E.M.Gregory (talk). Self-nominated at 11:11, 15 June 2015 (UTC).

Comment Newness ok, but as an expansion does not seem to meet 5x criterion—I make it about 3.5x from last version prior to submitter's recent interventions. Think it's a worthwhile article, though, so maybe it could be expanded to meet this criterion? (N.B. I am new to DYK reviewing and may be misinterpreting the 5x rule, would appreciate input from another editor.)Alafarge (talk) 23:29, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

The expansion is fine, excellent sources, offline accepted AGF, please fix the bare url. . Nomination was a bit late, but looking at worthy new content and a good hook I am willing to ignore that. Another hook might be what he said about "no friends, no hobbies, no spouse..." --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, I came by to promote this, but the hook fact doesn't correspond with the information in the article. In the article it says that he released his book in 1990 and did the promotional tour, when he told the Globe and Mail it was "none of their business", in 1991, not "years later". Also, he didn't tell "made-up stories" (plural), but circulated only one rumor, about him being a male prostitute. Yoninah (talk) 19:48, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

ALT1: ... that novelist Patrick Roscoe invented a past in which he worked as a male prostitute in order to promote his book of short stories? E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:10, 13 July 2015 (UTC)‎

Thanks for the alt. It's a great hook, but it's not written that way in the article. The sourced statement only says he "received publicity" for this allegation, but doesn't specify that he invented the story. Also, the cite for the Globe and Mail quote in the second sentence is quoting the material in the third sentence instead. Yoninah (talk) 10:16, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

On second thought, I'd like to withdraw this nomination as poor judgment on my part. I got into it via an AFD, and while it did not seem right to delete an article on a writer who has gotten this degree of critical attention, I am relictant to bring the attention of DKY to a writer who has not merely clearly expressed extreme - not to say pathological - reluctance to draw critical attention (i.e. he lives incognito), but who has expressed particular reluctance to have attention drawn to his personal sexuality.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:00, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

We can say something attractive without sexuality, no?

ALT2: ... that novelist Patrick Roscoe wrote a short story collection, Love Is Starving for Itself? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

lets honour the request to withdraw Victuallers (talk) 11:16, 24 July 2015 (UTC)