Template:Did you know nominations/Maria Komissarova
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The result was: promoted by Allen3 talk 16:20, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
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Maria Komissarova[edit]
... that after Maria Komissarova broke her back at the 2014 Winter Olympics, she was visited by Vladimir Putin?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Leader of Alderney: I reviewed five articles there, so this is the third review I am using it in
Created by Matty.007 (talk), additionally edited by Iselilja (talk). Self nominated at 16:17, 16 February 2014 (UTC).
QPQ done. Article new and long enough. Komissarova has now been transferred to a hospital in Munich, Germany and I think the article should be updated to reflect that. I also believe we should put this article on hold for a little while until we maybe have a clearer picture as to how serious the injury is. The statements from Bach, the Russian Olympic Committee and Putin is not really saying much and not all of them may not necessarily have a lot of encyclopedic value; although the visit by Putin has. Looking at the photo of Putin's visit, she was still in respirator at the time; which is one of the reasons we should be a bit careful before putting this on the mainpage. I find some close paraphrasing issue in this sentence: "In 2013, Komissarova was unable to compete for six months due to having surgery on a leg injury" (BBC source). Regards, Iselilja (talk) 20:37, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
- OK, I can deal with that, I will add the source tomorrow, and it is probably more sensitive if we wait (though the doctors seemed to think she'd recover, though how fully remains to be seen). Thanks, Matty.007 21:06, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
I guess the health situation is stable enough now to let the article go on the mainpage during the Olympics. I updated a bit, precised the nature of the injury and removed what I thought what non-essential quotes, so I believe I should't review the article myself since I have changed it somewhat. We don't have any information on whether she has got any paralysis; the fact that doctors were unsure about her prognosis might indicate that this is an issue; but we might not get public information about this (or not any information in English sources). Iselilja (talk) 20:48, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
The article looks in good shape now. It is new enough, long enough, well-referenced, no close paraphrasing seen. Hook ref verified and cited inline. QPQ done. Good to go. Yoninah (talk) 22:46, 25 February 2014 (UTC)- Please can we wait for a few days to ensure no bad news comes out. Thanks, Matty.007 06:48, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
- The Swiss tabloid 20 Minutes wrote yesterday that Kominssarova says she has no feeling in her body below the navel. This seems to be based (without attribution) to an Instagram post by Komissarova. I didn't want to update the article with the info since it's sensitive information and only one media has reported on it, but it seems accurate. Her situation doesn't appear to be life-threatening, but the injury is severe. Iselilja (talk) 08:06, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
I would just like to put this up so that it doesn't get promoted. I still believe that information may come. Iselilja, do you mind me adding you as creating/expanding the article? Thanks, Matty.007 17:59, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- There are now more sources in English about her paralysis, so I will change the French source for an English one. It doesn't say a whole lot more thaa that she's paralysed from waist and down; and will stay in Germany for at least three months. I don't think we will get much more information than that, so the question is if we want to put an article and hook focused on the accident on the mainpage. I am doubtful, but it would be helpful to have others give their views. (As for me, I have contributed to the article, but only after it was nominated and after the five days deadline.) Iselilja (talk) 18:40, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- I still think you deserve to be credited. Also, I would recommend a less injury centered hook, perhaps focussing on the fact that she is the first Russian women to win a World Cup medal. Thanks, Matty.007 18:49, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Also, she has said she hopes to recover. Thanks, Matty.007 18:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, she does hope to walk again. So you may consider if you want to include that in the article. Realistically, I don't think the prognosis is so good when a person is still paralyzed without signs of recovery ten days after the trauma. We don't have any recent statements from doctors. Iselilja (talk) 19:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Now added. I'm not sure if saying that she hopes to recover should be on the main page, I am swsaying towards not. Thanks, Matty.007 19:21, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- I share your worries Matty. I have tried to add some extra detail but basically this article reflects the press coverage and there is very little about her. Most of it is about an accident. Victuallers (talk) 13:05, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- What I was meaning to say was that I didn't want to put an article about an injury on the main page when that injury could have a major effect on the living person. I think the article gives the right amount of weight to her injury, the most major at the games. Thanks, Matty.007 13:49, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- I share your worries Matty. I have tried to add some extra detail but basically this article reflects the press coverage and there is very little about her. Most of it is about an accident. Victuallers (talk) 13:05, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
- Now added. I'm not sure if saying that she hopes to recover should be on the main page, I am swsaying towards not. Thanks, Matty.007 19:21, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, she does hope to walk again. So you may consider if you want to include that in the article. Realistically, I don't think the prognosis is so good when a person is still paralyzed without signs of recovery ten days after the trauma. We don't have any recent statements from doctors. Iselilja (talk) 19:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- Also, she has said she hopes to recover. Thanks, Matty.007 18:52, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
- I still think you deserve to be credited. Also, I would recommend a less injury centered hook, perhaps focussing on the fact that she is the first Russian women to win a World Cup medal. Thanks, Matty.007 18:49, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
Please can someone review this alt, as she may be permanently paralysed: Alt 1: ... that Maria Komissarova was the first-ever woman to win a World Cup medal for Russia in the ski cross? Matty.007 18:36, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
- I hyperlinked "World Cup" to freestyle world cup. I think the hook will need to be a bit more precise about which World cup she is the first to win a medal in. The BBC source says she was the first Russian woman to win a medal in ski cross, which is a sub-disipline of freestyle skiing. Also, I am a bit unsure whether you normally refer to World Cup top threes as medal winners, but that's in the source. Otherwise, I agree that if this article shall go to the main page, the hook should focus on her career highlight. Regards, Iselilja (talk) 19:12, 6 March 2014 (UTC)