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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Theleekycauldron (talk) 17:02, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

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Harry Ferris Brazenor

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The Salford tiger
The Salford tiger
Manchester sperm whale
Manchester sperm whale
  • Comment: The article was created in userspace, and copied and pasted to mainspace on 28 September. I have provided an alternative image for ALT1. Sorry I cannot get into the museum to photograph the whale myself because the museum is closed for refurbishment until 2022.

Created by Storye book (talk). Self-nominated at 09:58, 5 October 2021 (UTC).

  • Thank you for the link. I have substituted the picture. I just have to wait for the museum record reference, so that we have a citation for ALT0. Storye book (talk) 13:40, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
  • I now have the museum records reference and accession number for the Salford tiger, and I have added that above, and in the article. This nom is now ready for review. Storye book (talk) 17:27, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
I'll start a review momentarily! Dugan Murphy (talk) 21:18, 12 October 2021 (UTC)


General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - There are two citations at the end of the sentence that includes the quote "more enthusiastic than accurate", but it's not clear which citation includes the quote. I think you need to add an inline citation immediately following the quote to make that clear. Same issue with the use of "mainstay" as a quote.
  • Neutral: Yes
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - The hook uses a 1914 date that is mentioned only in an unreferenced image caption. I think that for this nomination to move forward, either that caption needs a citation or the 1914 date needs to be added (with citation) to the body of the article.
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Above, I mentioned two quotes that I believe need inline citations before this nomination can move forward. The only other thing that would hold back this nomination is the other issue I raised about the 1914 date. Once those two issues are resolved, I recommend using the original hook and tiger image. By contrast, the following are comments from me that I don't believe affect this nomination, but could help improve this article.

  • I don't know if it's because I'm American or my lack of familiarity with the subject, but I find footnotes 1 through 9 confusing. What do the numbers and letters at the end of each one mean?
  • I don't think including "(Manchester Evening News, 1909)" at the end of the block quote is necessary since that information is in the citation. Dugan Murphy (talk) 22:04, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Done. Thank you for the review. Storye book (talk) 09:14, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
  • Great. All the issues I raised have been addressed, so I struck them out. This nomination looks like it is ready to proceed with the original hook. Dugan Murphy (talk) 12:06, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
ALT0 to T:DYK/P7
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