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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 22:08, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

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Eva Randová[edit]

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Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Self-nominated at 14:19, 24 March 2017 (UTC).

  • Article created on 24 March and DYK nominated on the same day. QPQ done. The article is majorly depends on bach-cantatas.com. Is this a WP:RS? If not, can we replace the source with other references? Only one other source is used which is used for awards. - Vivvt (Talk) 14:47, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
So sorry, I nominated and only then found that it had no source yet. Created 18 March, I thought I do something about not being late. I added Bayreuth ref already. It's in German, but BC is a translation as far as I can see. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:00, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
The Operissimo Website is the source of the bach-cantatas bio (as of August 2001) that has been used so extensively in this article: three of the five Career paragraphs are solely sourced by this bio, which can be found here. It's a subscription website; the question is how they come by the information they sell, and I couldn't find anything that indicated where their material came from, or why it should be considered reliable. Maybe a query at the reliable sources noticeboard would be in order? BlueMoonset (talk) 23:22, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
It's the typical translation from de, where no sources are given. I am always happy to find at least some, and prefer English and online. Please wait, I still have some Easter topics open which can't wait. Both Operone and Bach-Cantatas are based on Kutsch, a printed book. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:27, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Back: what should we do? Three sources are based on Kutsch: Operone, Bayreuth, Bach cantatas. Bach cantatas is practically a translation of Bayreuth. I can refer to both each time if that helps, - just thought English is easier to understand for English readers. All sourcing was added later to the article, which is a translation from German where it exists since 2005, based on Kutsch. Several pages of the Kutsch book are available online, but unfortunately not hers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:28, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that mezzo-soprano Eva Randová appeared in operas by Dvořák and Janáček and at the Bayreuth Festival as Kundry in Wagner's Parsifal? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:36, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
  • On it. — LlywelynII 21:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

    Article not submitted same day as creation but still timely; article barely long enough (~1.7k elig. chars.) and hook overly verbose but terse enough for DYK purposes (<170 chars.); hook sourced and article well sourced; Earwig finds everything's been rephrased well enough; one should be more careful about BLP articles but the objections above are unfounded: nothing is defamatory and the Bayreuther site is RS even if you don't think its English translation is; Ms Arendt is correct that we should cite the English form but will hopefully see that, where it looks like an unreliable wiki, its own reliable sources should also be included to avoid objections like those above; the hook is rather dull (nominee versus winner) but there isn't much else to work with; QPQ done.

    Ms Arendt might consider that the extra links in the hook serve no real purpose except to remove clicks from the article she worked on. Every other link is probably more interesting, but you can make the readers click through to your article to find them. — LlywelynII 21:21, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
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