Template:Did you know nominations/Cai Gao

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 15:45, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Cai Gao[edit]

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~~... that the name of the first Protestant convert in mainland China is still uncertain?~~

ALT1:... that the first Protestant convert in mainland China is also thought to have been its first modern type-cutter and letterpress printer?
ALT2:... that the missionary Robert Morrison, "author" of the first English–Chinese dictionary, was so careless that the actual name of the first Protestant convert in mainland China is still uncertain?
ALT3:... that Protestant missionary Robert Morrison's first convert was the printer he had previously fired for his bad temper?
ALT4:... that the first Protestant convert in mainland China was fired from his job with the missionary Robert Morrison for his incessant fighting with Morrison's Mandarin tutor?
ALT5:... that the brother of Robert Morrison's Cantonese tutor, the first Protestant convert in mainland China, was fired by the missionary for quarreling with his Mandarin tutor?
ALT6:... that, despite being fired by missionary Robert Morrison for his quick temper, the first Protestant convert in mainland China continued to attend Morrison's services faithfully for years?
ALT7:... that the elder brother of the first Protestant convert in mainland China was a Confucianist who attended services for years out of a sense of duty to his employer, despite not believing a word of it?
ALT8:... that Protestant missionary Robert Morrison complained that the first Protestant convert in mainland China was "not so docile as I could wish?"
Reviewed: ~~will do~~ The Martian
Comment: Note to reviewers: You don't need to go through all the hooks, just the one that grabs your interest. (Also, yes, I'm aware the image caption is too snarky to actually be used; still...)

5x expanded by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 13:12, 23 July 2016 (UTC).

No issues found with article, ready for human review.
- ✓ This article has been expanded from 673 chars to 8075 chars since 04:10, 29 March 2016 (UTC), a 12.00-fold expansion
- ✓ This article meets the DYK criteria at 8075 characters
- ✓ All paragraphs in this article have at least one citation
- ✓ This article has no outstanding maintenance tags
- ? A copyright violation is suspected by an automated tool, with 41.2% confidence. (confirm)
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No overall issues detected
- ✓ The media File:Morrison at work.jpg is free-use
- ✓ The hook ALT0 is an appropriate length at 79 characters
- ✓ The hook ALT1 is an appropriate length at 130 characters
- ✓ The hook ALT2 is an appropriate length at 189 characters
- ✓ The hook ALT3 is an appropriate length at 114 characters
- ✓ The hook ALT4 is an appropriate length at 165 characters
- ✓ The hook ALT5 is an appropriate length at 166 characters
- ✓ The hook ALT6 is an appropriate length at 195 characters
- ✓ The hook ALT7 is an appropriate length at 137 characters
- ✓ LlywelynII has more than 5 DYK credits. A QPQ review of Template:Did you know nominations/The Martian (film) was performed for this nomination.

Automatically reviewed by DYKReviewBot. This bot is experimental; please report any issues. This is not a substitute for a human review. --DYKReviewBot (report bugs) 23:07, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Some of the hooks seem to have an axe to grind; I don't see the word careless or "author" (in quotes) in the article. And I'd like to see some justification for the caption on the image. E Eng 23:23, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate your work here, but yes comments like this are precisely why I added the note above. — LlywelynII 00:50, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed the note re the caption. But that still leaves careless and the quote marks in ALT1. E Eng 01:22, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

This interesting article is a five-fold expansion and is new enough and long enough. I have selected and approved ALT1 and ALT8. The other hooks may be all right but I have not checked them. The image is in the public domain and if used would need a new caption such as "Robert Morrison with his two Chinese assistants". The article is neutral and I detected no copyright issues. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 19:25, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Let's go with ALT8 but omit the photo, since it's of Morrison and neither of the assistants pictured is Cai himself.

If ALT2 is approved for Edwin Steven's DYK, the obedience angle here might make a good pairing. — LlywelynII 04:11, 8 August 2016 (UTC)