Template:Did you know nominations/Brian Kershisnik

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by BlueMoonset (talk) 05:42, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
Needs a 5x expansion, not a 2x, which is infeasible; withdrawn by nominator.

Brian Kershisnik

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• ... that Mormon artist Brian Kershisnik describes his art as "mythological autobiography"? Source: "DN: In a paragraph, please describe your style. BK: Yeah, that’s hard. I kind of think of it as somewhat of a mythological autobiography. They are all paintings that emerge from my own experience." (Deseret News Q and A)
  • ALT1:... that Brian Kershisnik's own experience witnessing childbirth inspired his painting Nativity? Source: "BK: I thought about the births of my own children and how densely witnessed those events felt. Then I thought, I’ll do the birth of Jesus." (Deseret News Q and A)
  • ALT2:... that Brian Kershisnik painted a portrait of Leslie Norris that was refused by the person who requested it? Source: "A portrait of Welsh poet Leslie Norris began as a request from the Norris’s neighbor. Since Kershisnik doesn’t generally do commissions — or portraits for that matter — he decided to do a piece of his own choosing with Leslie as the subject and allow the neighbors the first right of refusal. Unfortunately (for the neighbors) they did refuse the piece." (15 Bytes Magazine)

• Reviewed: Ken Attafuah
• Comment: DYK check won't work... sorry! But I have certainly added sources and doubled the page in the last week. If you go with the Nativity hook, it's related to Christmas and could be held in the Christmas special occasion area.

2x expanded and sourced (BLP) by Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk). Self-nominated at 21:55, 7 December 2017 (UTC).

• Rachel Helps (BYU), I don't understand why you believe that this qualifies for the 2x expansion, which is only available for BLPs that had no referencing at all prior to the expansion. Even as of this edit back in November 2016, the article had one inline source citation (miscalled a "note") and one general reference, along with 1596 prose characters. It doesn't matter that the inline source citation was ultimately dropped in your edits. So this has to meet DYK's standard 5x expansion requirement; I would certainly count it from the 1596 (prior to your initial November 29 edits, even though they're technically eight days prior to the December 7 nomination date). However, that requires an expansion to 7980 prose characters, quite a bit more than the 6263 characters the article currently has (just short of a 4x expansion). If you think you can further expand the article in the next week or two and reach 7980, then I'm happy to hold the nomination open, hence the "/" icon rather than the "X". (A place where the article could be more clear is about his family/personal life: was it him moving his own family (wife and children) to Utah, or did he move with his parents? Also, you mention two different wives without any sense of what happened when.) Otherwise, your best bet may be to aim for GA status, and renominate the article should it become a GA. Best of luck, and please let me know your plans. BlueMoonset (talk) 17:46, 8 December 2017 (UTC)

• Sorry, I had never seen a BLP expanded nomination before, so I wasn't sure how strict the criteria were on prior sourcing. A large part of the page was unsourced and I thought that it might qualify; the criteria just says "former unsourced", but I trust that you know the criteria better than I do. Thanks for your patience! I was vague about the years of remarriage and divorce because while I did find a public record with the year of his divorce, his divorce was only obliquely mentioned in subsequent interviews, and the year of his remarriage was also never concretely stated. I don't think I can expand it enough to qualify for 5x expansion. I think I will do as you suggest and nominate it for GA. I'm not sure if I can put the ineligible tick on, but I'd like to withdraw the nomination. Thank you for the review. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 20:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)