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On April 2013, it was proposed that this article be moved from Sanjak of Zor to Mutasarrifiyya of Zor. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

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There never existed a Vilayet called Deir ez-Zor. It was only a sanjak or a part of Halab --78.35.59.56 (talk) 16:39, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

Vilayet:

Sanjak:

In Turkish:

"Zor Vilayeti" -Llc 2 (-1, English: Province of Sehr-i Zor)
"vilâyet i şehr-i Zor" -Llc 1
"Zor mutasarrıflığı" -Llc 6
"Zor sancağı" -Llc 61

Takabeg (talk) 22:55, 4 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

According to the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English):

It can happen that an otherwise notable topic has not yet received much attention in the English-speaking world, so that there are too few English sources to constitute an established usage. Very low Google counts can but need not be indicative of this. If this happens, follow the conventions of the language in which this entity is most often talked about...[1]

It is obvious that this Ottoman province did not receive much attention in the English-speaking world. Also, it is obvious that this entity is most often talked about in Turkish language. Based on above presented arguments it is obvious that Turkish sources refer to this province as sanjak (if word sancağı means sanjak) and that this article should be renamed from vilayet to sanjak (to “Zor Sanjak” or “Sanjak of Zor” or “Sanjak of Deir ez-Zor”). Takabeg, what is the best translation from Turkish to English of the most often used term on Turkish language?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 21:19, 5 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Was it actually the Mutasarrifate of Zor?[edit]

According to this page, it was a mutasarrifate: [2].--eh bien mon prince (talk) 23:43, 26 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it was definitely a sanjak governed by a mutasarrif, as confirmed by the 1911 britannica: [3]. I'm moving the page accordingly.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 00:07, 28 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Mutasarrifate of Jerusalem which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 09:00, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]