Talk:Wong Yip Yan

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Use of the theory of Valuation using multiples[edit]

Roystan tan - The sentence that states Wong would have netted between $3.6-$7.2 billion from the sale of the Wywy Group is not supported by any reliable third party source. Calculating the sale price of Wywy using the theory of Valuation using multiples is speculative and not based on fact. This is the reason I removed the language. Please let me know your basis for adding it back? Shmestin (talk) 13:56, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Roystan tan - I see that you have added to another section your reference to the sale price of Wywy using the theory of Valuation using multiples. As stated above I previously deleted this information because the sale price is unsourced (and not supported by any third party source), and I believe using multiples to calculate it is speculative and not based on fact. You have not responded to my attempt to discuss this issue, and so I will delete it again. If we cannot reach agreement, I suggest that we request a third opinion (3O) and have another editor opine. Shmestin (talk) 16:44, 5 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Net Worth[edit]

Roystan tan - The net worth value you added is not supported by the third party source you cited (nor any other reliable third party source listed on the page). Is there another legitimate source that validates this number? Otherwise I think it should be removed. Shmestin (talk) 11:57, 1 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Roystan tan - I see that you have added back in the net worth value discussed above. Again, the net worth value is not supported by the third party source you cited, nor any other reliable third party source. I will delete this mention again unless you have an alternative third party source to support this. If you still disagree, it may make sense to request a third opinion (3O) so that another editor can make a determination on the matter. Shmestin (talk) 14:17, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Third opinion request[edit]

Response to third opinion request:

I am responding to a third opinion request for this page. I have made no previous edits on Wong Yip Yan and have no known association with the editors involved in this discussion. The third opinion process is informal and I have no special powers or authority apart from being a fresh pair of eyes.

I looked at the source provided for the net worth estimate. It does not contain any such estimate, and it certainly does not contain the figure sourced here. Therefore, the figure should be removed until such a source is found. It might be helpful if Roystan reads WP:V and WP:RS before attempting to add such information again. Regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 22:49, 18 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: As well, I'd like to add, this is primarily what Wikipedia's policy on original research is intended to prohibit. Tutelary (talk) 02:46, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Further comment: part of the problem here, and the reason why I hesitated to act on the WP:3O request, is that it seems nobody has either pinged Roystan tan here nor put a not on his talk page. I'm going to do both now. @Roystan tan: the data you have repeatedly inserted regarding Wong's net worth is not supported by the citation you give. Please do not insert it again unless you can provide a reliable source that explicitly states Wong's net worth. Links to a formula or general procedure for calculating such things are not sufficient, whether reliable or not. --Stfg (talk) 19:28, 19 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]