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Case sensitivity[edit]

In the following portion:

By the time MediaWiki appeared, this convention had been largely abandoned in favor of explicitly marking links in edited source code with double square brackets. Page names thus did not interrupt the flow of English and could follow standard English capitalization convention. Case-sensitivity on the first letter but not subsequent letters supported standard English capitalization conventions and let writers author their pages in ordinary English, with the linking of particular words and phrases afterward. This proved to be the critical change that allowed ordinary authors of English to write wiki pages, and non-technical users to read them. This policy was extended to other natural languages, avoiding the use of unusual-looking text or awkward capitalization that violates the language's own rules.

Was the reverse meant in the part I've bolded? That is, shouldn't that say "Case-insensitivity on just the first letter"? On Wikipedia (and other MediaWiki sites), for example, [[wiki software]] automatically works as a link, but [[wIKI SOFTWARE]] does not. ([[Wiki Software]] only works because an explicit redirect was set up.) It'd help if the section had citations, too. —Undomelin (talk) 20:56, 7 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for noticing that, you're quite right! I've gone ahead and fixed it --RProgrammer (talk) 17:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Is Confluence (software) a wiki?[edit]

I'm seeing the beginning of a slow-motion edit war on this article between what looks like disgruntled Confluence (software) users and myself. We should stop this now.

On one side we have editors who believe that Confluence is no longer a wiki because it has abstracted away two features (wiki markup and what we would call the creation of a redlink as you are editing an article).

On my side are editors ... OK, so far just one editor, me ... who take a more ecumenical view of what a wiki is. I believe that the opening paragraph of the current version of Wiki is correct, and that "A wiki is a knowledge base website on which users collaboratively modify content and structure directly from the web browser." Confluence would continue to be that, even if it lost those two important features.

wwdada: For the record, I am also a Confluence user of an older version that still has those features. When I have upgraded to the current version and lost those features, I will also be upset, but Confluence will still be a wiki. Vadder (talk) 18:45, 31 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I don't think people should take up Confluence at this stage thinking it is a Wiki. Confluence also (despite their size) do not own the definition of Wiki The most essential functionality is the ability to make a link like this to "[Wiki Properties]" or "[Newly discovered Planet]" or "[New Products]". Many in the comment chain on that issue have also indicated that without this functionality, (and especially with NO wikiMarkup), Confluence is no longer a Wiki (no longer a Quick mechnism for typing linked documents, as originally formulated). No Alternative vision has been put forward, just a web-editing applet. https://jira.atlassian.com/browse/CONFCLOUD-67129

I myself (wwdada), had signed up my company to Confluence Cloud on the basis that we'd be receiving Wiki functionality. This is not as was expected from the name 'wiki' and it is important that other groups do not fall into this trap, without knowledge.