Talk:Wenceslaus I of Bohemia

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Several points for addition, if they can be confirmed:

Wenceslaus expelled Jewish residents to accommodate German immigrants. [1]
Wenceslaus was murdered. [2]

Jdmstl 15:43, 25 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I believe that's a different Wenceslaus (died 935). --Michael K. Smith 01:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

27.7.2017 R.Svoboda

You probably mean last member of Přemyslid dynasty, Bohemian King Václav (Wenceslaus) III, who was assassinated in 1306.

Death Date[edit]

What is the source for a death date of 1253? According to Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln (vol. 2), he died before 23 Sept 1248. --Michael K. Smith 01:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus^(talk) 00:00, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why was this moved? Wenceslaus is the English spelling and the ducal articles conform to it. Srnec 23:11, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Support per WP:UE. — AjaxSmack 02:08, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 00:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Wording in Paragraph II[edit]

"In 1241 Wenceslaus successfully repelled a raid on Bohemia by Batu Khan, although Moravia suffered devastation at the hands of the Mongols. Because Mongols did not sent main army to Poland, Bohemia and Silesia. That was consisted of only 20.000 mongols who defeated european elite knights such as Knights Templar, Teutonic knights, Hospitallers and mounted Polish heavy knights. In 1248 Wenceslaus had to deal with a rebellion of the nobility, led by his son Otakar. The rebellion was quelled and Otakar imprisoned."

Specifically, in the second and third sentences, I'm not exactly sure what's being stated. The second sentence reads, "Because Mongols did not sent main army to Poland, Bohemia and Silesia." I'm tempted to think that it's connected to the first sentence (i.e. "In 1241, Wenceslaus successfully repelled a Mongol raid on Bohemia, because the Mongols did not send their main army to Bohemia, Poland or Silesia, though Moravia suffered significant destruction at the hands of the Mongols), but I'm not sure if that's what the author was trying to say, and since no references are cited, I can't cross-reference them to clarify the sentence. The third sentence is also a point of confusion for me. Which army was made up of 20 000 men? The main army, or the one that was sent to Poland, Bohemia and Silesia? If it's the main Mongol army, there needs to be something to tie it to the rest of the paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CorporalSpringbok (talk • contribs) 20:07, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

25.7.2017 R.Svoboda According to Alexander Bevin's book "How the great commanders win". The Mongols divided their army into 4 divisions. Three of them went directly to Hungarian kingdom (about 50 000 troops), while one with 20 000 troops made diversion attack into Galicia and Silesia. This single division fought at Legnica (Silesia) , then was blocked by King Václav I from entering Bohemia at Kladsko (Bohemian kingdom, now Poland). After that the King Václav I let Mongols go through Moravia from the North to South, commanding Moravians to withdraw into mountains, forrests and fortified cities with all supplies. Mongols tried to take Olomouc, Brno and Uničov, but were repelled. Anyway, they came in time to join rest of Mongolian army and fought battle at Mohi (Hungary). In winter the Mongols tried to advance from Hungary to the West tovards Vienna (Austria), but were attacked and defeated by Václav I on Morava river probably near Děvín castle (Hungarian kingdom, now Slovakia). Sources: Vlastimil Vondruška: Přemyslid Epopee tetralogy, wiki UK

Charles Cawley is not a reliable source[edit]

See RS: Medieval Lands by Charles Cawley

Citations to Cawley's website need to be replaced with reliable sources. -- PBS (talk) 15:23, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Foundation of towns[edit]

I am quite sure, that King Václav I did not founded cities of Olomouc and others, which are listed in ther article. Those cities existed long before his reign.

Naming of Přemyslid kings[edit]

Name Ottokar is wrong, Přemyslid kings were:

Přemysl Otakar I, Václav I, Přemysl Otakar II, Václav II, Václav III

before them, there was a long line of Přemyslid Princes (including also two Kings), longing from the year 872 to 1197. see https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/P%C5%99emyslovci#Kr.C3.A1lovsk.C3.A1_linie_.28od_Vratislava_II..29

statue[edit]

Statue in the main picture is of St. Wenceslaus (duke, 907-934), not king Wenceslaus I. 240D:1A:E1F:8F00:AC96:8633:9E5:2293 (talk) 14:13, 26 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]