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I hereby want to explain why I object to the deletion of the Vestoj page.

Vestoj is a journal (although not peer reviewed), but nevertheless “is a periodical publication devoted to reporting the results of scholarly research or higher education, and journal notability refers to being known for such engagement.” This notability is accurate for Vestoj.

Vestoj meets all criteria for a stand-alone article:

1. The journal is considered by reliable sources to be influential in its subject area. As the section ‘contributors’ shows, Vestoj works closely with the most influential scholars and practioneers of its field, educational centers and has been talked about by many independent and reliable sources. Each of them are emphasizing on the importance and relevance of the journal as it “stands apart from the current crop of new magazines because of its consciously intellectual stance” .

2. The journal is frequently cited by other reliable sources. Vestoj is frequently cited for educational purposes, within and outside Universities.

3. The journal has an historic purpose or a significant history. Even though Vestoj is founded in 2009, it has created significant impact in its field. Vestoj has been called “one of the most successful attempts to provide the young academic discipline fashion studies with an equivalent to, say, the medical journal The Lancet,” . Vestoj plays an important part in the development of fashion as an academic discourse and thereby has created a significant place for itself within fashion history.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NJournals
 http://ualresearchonline.arts.ac.uk/3799/
 http://www.sidbloggen.se/2009/11/24/vestoj-allvarligt-talat-om-mode-pa-esperanto/

The term 'journal' appears here to be used in a non-academic manner, and as a synonym for 'magazine', in accordance with the Wikipedia definition of 'journal'. Vestoj is not a peer-reviewed scholarly publication but it also falls outside of the definition of 'fashion magazine'. Though its content is regularly written by academics, it is not intended for scholarly use but rather to bring academic research to a general public. Vestoj places as much emphasis on visual content as it does on articles (academic papers, journalistic articles, literature and poetry); in this sense Vestoj occupies a rare, interdisciplinary and groundbreaking space in fashion publishing. However, if 'journal' is still not deemed a valid definition, perhaps 'periodical' or 'publication' are more suitable options?


The article on Vestoj has several independent sources listed as references and it satisfies the following criteria on notability:

"Significant coverage" means that sources address the subject directly in detail, so no original research is needed to extract the content. Significant coverage is more than a trivial mention but it need not be the main topic of the source material.[1]

"Reliable" means sources need editorial integrity to allow verifiable evaluation of notability, per the reliable source guideline. Sources may encompass published works in all forms and media, and in any language. Availability of secondary sources covering the subject is a good test for notability.

"Sources",[2] for notability purposes, should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. The number and nature of reliable sources needed varies depending on the depth of coverage and quality of the sources. Multiple sources are generally expected.[3] Sources are not required to be available online, and they are not required to be in English. Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability.

"Independent of the subject" excludes works produced by those affiliated with the subject or its creator. For example, self-publicity, advertising, self-published material by the subject, the subject's website, autobiographies, and press releases are not considered independent.[4]

(On that note, please look at the Wiki page for Cabinet magazine, which appears to have significantly less rigorous referencing than this page on Vestoj: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabinet_%28magazine%29) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.57.218.87 (talk) 19:48, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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