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"narrowly passed over in the bid for the last Winter Olympics" - which Olympics was that? Jamie Mercer 18:07, 4 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Ceroklis 22:54, 1 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

So what's the highest point in reality - Dufourspitze 4634 (in card) or Monte Rosa 4638 (in text)? Ilya O. Orlov 10:44, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Latin Europe[edit]

Hello Valais! There is a vote going on at Latin Europe that might interest you. Please everyone, do come and give your opinion and votes. Thank you. The Ogre (talk) 21:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

the commune St-Pierre-de-Clages postal code 1955 is missing from the list bloublou (talk) 11:12, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Advertising on Wikipedia[edit]

Unfortunately User:Valaistourisme has decided to ignore the advice at User talk:Valaistourisme, and for the third time deleted large parts of the article without explanation, overwriting it with unsourced, advertising-like material. Once again: Wikipedia is not a free advertising space, but a project to write an encyclopedia, where a sober, factual writing style is highly valued and opinionated texts (a striking panorama of magnificent peaks) are not appropriate - see our neutral point of view policy.

Because the purpose of an encyclopedia article is to inform neutrally, statements addressing the reader as a potential customer, buyer or paying visitor are inappropriate:

The Romans were already familiar with the therapeutic benefits of thermal baths. You can reap the same benefits today in the Valais’ spa resorts ...

Regards, HaeB (talk) 19:51, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it apparently turns out that they didn't listen to the NPOV policy before and are continuing not to. User talk:Valaistourisme
I tried a lot to fix the issue, adding templates, creating a talk section (Talk:Valais#Not meeting the standards of a Wikipedia article), attempting to edit some of the text to make it more neutral, and even calling in the experts at Wikipedia:WikiProject Switzerland. Ztimes3 (talk) 07:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Hello Haeb,

Ok, let me explain you the situation once again. Valais Tourism is the umbrella association of tourism in Valais. We are not trying to introduce advertising in Wikipedia, we just want to provide general informations about the region. The main page has been created by the Valais government administration, we can't change it, we only contribute to the "tourism" part because we are specialists of the domain. So, if there is any other problem, let me know and I will change it. What did I delete ? If I delete something in the "tourism" part of the article, it's because this information is wrong of useless.

I'm wainting for your answer.

Thanks.

R.

Hello HaeB,

I've deleted this part of the text, is it correct now ?

Thanks

R. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valaistourism (talk • contribs) 14:21, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

what happened the pictures?[edit]

some of we humans r more visually inclined, and dont even have the time to read much these days as were occupied with researches and such, maybe dont even have computer access for more than a few minutes..who knows...as well images reinforce memory of textual and factual information- what happened to the picture reporting of the valais? thr were som nice grapes on this page... dont they grow grapes in the valais? —Preceding unsigned comment added by FreyasCrystalizedAngels (talk • contribs) 12:32, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Hello FreyasCrystalizedAngels,

Sorry but I don't understand you message, can you explain please ?

Thanks a lot.

R. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valaistourism (talk • contribs) 09:57, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


I agree with user FreyasCrystalizedAngels that there should be at least one photo depicting the vineyards of Valais, IMHO it is much more representative than an oil refinery. mgeo talk 12:25, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

French speaking Savoyard[edit]

Starting in 1384 the Morge stream (a little below Sion) was recognized as the boundary between Savoyard, French speaking Lower Valais...

I doubt that in 1384 Savoyards were French speaking people. French became the official language of Savoy under French occupation in the XVI century. French became the official language of Geneva after the reformation. The Francoprovencal language was abandoned in the XIX and XX centuries. That would be like saying that the native American spoke English or that the Incas spoke Spanish. --Percht (talk) 11:52, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The native American/Inca analogy is a false analogy. The language divisions in the Valais developed over centuries of gradual migrations and trade from neighboring peoples, not a sudden invasion from half-way around the world. Perhaps it should be called Franco-Provençal or Savoyard, but the lower Valais spoke a Romance language, while the migrating Walsers spoke Walser German when they settled in the upper Valais.Tobyc75 (talk) 12:50, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Hello Tobyc75,

Thank you for you message.

Valais Tourism is the umbrella association of tourism in Valais. The Wiki has been created by the Valais government administration, we just created the "tourism" section. So, we can't modifiy the historical informations so far, but, I'll try to contact the right person and tell her to edit this section and do the change. Thanks a lot for you help.

Regards.

R. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valaistourism (talk • contribs) 10:00, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Why the content disapeared ?[edit]

Yesterday I've introduce some contect in this page, and today there's nothing ? I don't understand at all, this content is Wiki's adapted. Thank you for you answer. Valais tourism — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valaistourism (talk • contribs) 09:56, 7 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Editing : Lack of understanding[edit]

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Hello,

I encountered a lot of difficulties editing the page called "Valais" in Wikipedia. I've done it in french, no problem, in italian, no problem, but the english version is "impossible" to edit. I already know that every Wikipedia's language section has his own rules in terms of editing, so I think that's the reason why. So my request is simple, I just want to know what I must do to be allowed to edit this section ? Is it a sources problem, a username problem, a copyright problem...etc. ? I don't know and I don't want to edit 10x the same content for nothing, so please help me. I'll look forward for your answer. Thanks million.

Valaistourism (talk) 09:11, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Responding at User's talk page. Dru of Id (talk) 10:34, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What are the Upperwallis and Underwallis headtowns?[edit]

I'm guessing these two bits of Wallis canton ALSO have their own headtowns/capitals? Could they be listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:411:1600:226:8FF:FEDC:FD74 (talk) 23:06, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

They don't. The districts have capitals and they are listed. The division into Upper and Lower Valais is mostly historical/cultural and doesn't have legal implications. Generally speaking, Upper Valais is the German speaking part and Lower Valais is the French speaking part. I'm very surprised to see Sion and Sierre listed as being part of Upper Valais, they should be in Lower Valais. Also, often the division is not in two, but three regions: Upper, Central and Lower Valais. --Novarupta (talk) 12:21, 15 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks for the input. Another frain, what are the 'official' sundry names for the indwellers of Wallis itself overall, Upper Wallis, Lower Wallis, and Middle Wallis?


Are Walser and Walliser the all-embracing names for folk from Wallis/Valais?


Bytheway,

1. wasn't the town of Sitten/Sion and abodes historicaly mostly German-speaking until lately?

2. does the word: Walser have any links with that of the Waldenses whom started off in the Italian Alps before reaching Lyons then in the nation of Burgundy? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:411:1600:226:8FF:FEDC:FD74 (talk) 00:21, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

People from Valais are called Valaisan in French and Walliser in German. Sion was, as far as I know, mostly German (and Latin) speaking at some point in medieval history, but certainly not "until lately". I can't answer your last question, as I'm not familiar with the Waldenses. --Novarupta (talk) 14:56, 16 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Is Sitten the seat of government of Wallis[edit]

or did a Wallis local government sit somewhere else sometime long ago? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:411:1600:226:8FF:FEDC:FD74 (talk) 20:58, 19 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"Valais/the Valais"?[edit]

As far as I'm aware, the canton is normally referred to in English simply as "Valais", without a definite article, and this is done several times here. But "the Valais" - which as far as I can see is an over-literal translation from French "le Valais" and German "das Wallis" - is also used several times. Whatever the correct form is, it should surely be consistent within the article.89.212.50.177 (talk) 11:29, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I changed all occurrences of "the Valais" to "Valais". --Novarupta (talk) 13:08, 9 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Number of municipalities[edit]

I took the figure from the linked municipalities page - can the reference for the 2009 figure be updated to match. Jackiespeel (talk) 10:23, 19 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Not meeting the standards of a Wikipedia article[edit]

Initially reading this article out of curiosity regarding Swiss cantons, I've encountered a great deal of problems with this article including redundant information, expression of opinions, facts without references, advertising, and even potential conflict of interest. I've already put up maintenance templates on the page. I believe that a complete rewrite of the article is necessary. Ztimes3 (talk) 06:42, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You'll encounter a fair amount of unencyclopedic writing in this and many other articles. I run across it in a lot of articles on European topics especially -- lots of travel-writing style, often effusive and promotional in tone. Note: The "multiple issues" template you placed is asking for a parameter to be populated. Eric talk 16:36, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing that out. Also, how do I specify the issue?
Yours faithfully,
Ztimes3 (talk) 08:13, 18 March 2024 (UTC) (edited)[reply]
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P.S. Actually, ignore my question, I'll just look it up.
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