Talk:Ubuntu/GA1
What is a good article?
- It is reasonably well written.
- a (prose): b (MoS):
- It is factually accurate and verifiable.
- a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
- It is broad in its coverage
- a (major aspects): b (focused):
- It follows the neutral point of view policy.
- a (fair representation): b (all significant views):
- It is stable.
- It contains images, where possible, to illustrate the topic.
- a (tagged and captioned): b (lack of images does not in itself exclude GA): c (non-free images have fair use rationales):
- Overall:
- a Pass/Fail:
L, 1-14
Notes/Citations[edit]
- Separate Notes from Citations (see 1 and 2)
- Citations which aren't formatted properly:
- 11*, 14*, 16-7*, 19-20*, 27*, 31*, 34-5*, 40*, 42* 50*, 55*, 64*, 74-77*, 79-80*, 82*, 88** (YouTube - not a reliable source), 92, 98, 99, 100-111, 116-117, 121-122
- IIRC, forums are not reliable sources.
- See WP:CITE for more details.
References[edit]
- self-published sources (looks like many of them are)
don't need an access date for these.For websites, be sure to follow the cite web template.
- See WP:RS
Images[edit]
- Ubuntu logo needs a FURG for every page that it is located on.
- Captions don't need periods, unless they are complete sentences.
Criticism[edit]
- Where's this section, per NPOV?
- I think he meant it for me. However, he's wrong in his assumption. miranda 01:44, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- Changing this section to neutral. Found some criticisms. miranda 08:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Browsing[edit]
- You need to eliminate the Multilingual and Installer section and merge the sentences to the Features section.
- Citation is needed for this: The purpose of the foundation is to ensure the support and development for all future versions of Ubuntu, but as of 2006, the foundation remains dormant.[citation needed] miranda 04:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Copyedit (part one)[edit]
general comments
- avoid "it" - this made me confused about whether or not Debian was Ubuntu
derived or visa-vera
- if a sentence has two subjects (like X+Y, and X+Y) put a comma (X+Y, and Y) - unnecessary
Lead[edit]
- sponsored by ____, which is owned
- Ed. Ubuntu is an ... - not a compound sentence, remove comma
- The newest official subproject is JeOS - should be Ubuntu JeOS, then Pronounced JeOS
- You should spell out years for consistency in this section.
- Like "Two thousand and one", you mean? Where does the WP:MOS require that? ffm 15:50, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
History and Development Process[edit]
- Ubuntu's first release was on October 20, 2004, which began by making a temporary fork of the Debian project. - reword "Ubuntu was formed from a temporary fork of the Debian project when being released..."
- The font is distributed under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL), and use with logos derived from the Ubuntu logo is encouraged.[20]
- Merge 3rd "paragraph" with 2nd.
- Ubuntu cooperates with Debian—to some extent pushing changes back to Debian,[15] although there has been criticism that this is not happening enough[21].
andDebian and Ubuntu packages are not necessarily binary compatible with each other.[22]
- split up this sentence.
- within Debian
itself.
- However, Ian Murdock, the founder of Debian, criticized Ubuntu for package incompatibilities
between its packages and those ofin contrast to Debian's, sayingthatUbuntu had diverged too far from Debian Sarge to remain compatible.
- There are plans for a branch codenamed Grumpy Groundhog.
It will be aThe development will be permanently unstable development and testing branch, , and the source will be pulled the source directly out of the revision control of the various programs and applicationsthatwhich are shipped as part of the Ubuntu package.
- Grumpy Groundhog has not been made available to the public yet. - redundant take out
- Ubuntu 8.04, released on April 24, 2008, is the current Long Term Support (LTS) release. Canonical is committed to releasing a new LTS version every two years.[citation needed] - merge with third paragraph
- Not done I Disagree. The Third paragraph is about .debs and how both Debian and Ubuntu use them. I'm merging the third paragraph with the forth as they both deal with Debian and Ubuntu. The above paragraph will be merged in elsewhere. --Falcorian (talk) 01:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
- correct fact tags
- Done All fact tags removed. Either cited, or content deleted. --Falcorian (talk) 01:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
Vendor Support[edit]
- Dell and Tesco have provided this option since 2007, while System 76 has done so since its inception in November 2005
- its = System 76 or Ubuntu's?
Release History[edit]
- No external links. The citations should be suffixed if you want to cite the version number.
- Features should be merged into the overall paragraph
- Ubuntu 5.04's support ended on October 31, 2006[54]. miranda 18:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
Copyedit (part two)[edit]
Features[edit]
- needs more sources
- why is human quoted?
- internet does not need to be capitalized Only when name of software (Internet Explorer)
- chess is not capitalized
Desktop CD[edit]
- the introductory paragraph needs to be reworded
- please avoid "it"
Alternate Install[edit]
- don't capitalize "alternate" or "install"
Network install[edit]
- decapitalize network install
- don't use "it"
Customized installable live CD[edit]
- needs to be merged with main paragraph (features)
- External links need to be taken out. If included, make them in citations.
Package classification and support[edit]
- don't ital. "components", "universe", "multiverse", and "Ubuntu Backports"
- unquote "Free" as in "free" software
- Avoid quote dumping and summarize:
- There is one exception for Main however; it "also may contain binary firmware and selected fonts (which are used by free components of Main) that cannot be modified without permission from their authors" so long as their "redistribution is unencumbered."[45]
- Non-free software is usually unsupported (Multiverse), but some exceptions (Restricted) are made for very important non-free software, such as non-free device drivers, without which users might be prevented from running Ubuntu on their system, particularly binary-only graphics card drivers.
- Third sentence in paragraph need to merge with second
Question: Where? --Falcorian (talk) 03:04, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- It is intended that Main and Restricted should contain all software needed for a general-use Linux system. Alternative programs for the same tasks and programs for specialized applications are placed in Universe and Multiverse. needs to be merged with the paragraph above. miranda 07:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
- take out external link in fourth paragraph
Availability of proprietary software[edit]
Ubuntu-certifiedCertified with ubuntu
- The following are some examples:
- "multiverse", "ubuntu-restricted-extras" - no ital.
- List of features doesn't need to be in list form.
Copyedit (part three)[edit]
ShipIt[edit]
- This release had less development time due to it being released immediately after an LTS release (6.06), so 6.06 was offered in its place in the beginning.
- Run-on. Needs sources.
- After a request for CDs is made at the site and approved,
Variants[edit]
- There are several variants besides Ubuntu, both official and unofficial.
- Several official and unofficial variants besides Ubuntu exist?
System Requirements[edit]
- Please put this in prose form.
- Done I left the table as it is the most efficient way to convey the information still. --Falcorian (talk) 16:36, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
Response[edit]
- I had to copyedit this section.
- Put criticism in this section, because I know criticism exists.
- Doing... / Done I've added in one source, but I haven't found any more relavant sources that pass WP:RS. A few complain about features from old releases that have since been fixed... And I'm not sure if/how to include those. Putting them in seems to give undo weight to an outdated opinion, while refuting them almost certainly involves WP:OR. --Falcorian (talk) 06:45, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Decision[edit]
On hold for 1 week. miranda 06:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have decided to give this article
an extra twotwo extra days for the nominees to put a criticism section and to fix some of the still not addressed issues above. miranda 05:25, 12 June 2008 (UTC)- Fix Cite
#93#94 and fix prose in Package classification and support. Will check tomorrow, I promise! :-) miranda 01:41, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
- Fix Cite