Talk:UEFA Euro 2008 final

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Thanks "PeeJay2 for updating[edit]

This Pic now belongs to where it rightly fits :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goutamkhandelwal (talk • contribs) 11:25, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great job with the update[edit]

Wow, this is what I call real-time update! Thanks to everyone who edited. Kushal (talk) 20:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You mean me? – Pee Jay 20:39, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Statistics Section Vandalized[edit]

Clean it up. 67.85.190.202 (talk) 20:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weather[edit]

The source provided says the weather was sunny. Sunset was at 20:59 CET on the day of the game and kick-off was at 20:45 (approx), so that is probably accurate as of the start of the match. As User:Amakuru points out, most of the game was played at nighttime, so "sunny" isn't accurate for the whole match, but we don't have a source for the whole match, so we should stick with what we've got. – Pee Jay 11:30, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@PeeJay: I'm not that fussed about it, it just looked odd to me to be describing a night-time game as "sunny". The source for that is a pre-match factsheet dated 19:35, so more than an hour before kick-off. And from this YouTube video there is no evidence of sunshine at the kick-off (around 7 seconds in). My guess is the sun would have been low on the horizon at that point, and not high enough to reach the field of play past the stands. I'm all for WP:Verifiability not truth, but it doesn't seem right to say the game was sunny when it clearly was played under floodlights with no hint of sun on the field. — Amakuru (talk) 12:04, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, fair enough, just wanted to start a discussion anyway. I don't know if what I'm seeing in that YouTube video is the roof of the stadium or the sky, but it looks like it's still at least fairly bright. Not a blue sky, definitely reddish, but not dark. Maybe there's a published source out there that can tell us reliably what the weather was like during the bulk of the match. – Pee Jay 12:09, 17 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:UEFA Euro 2008 Final/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 19:25, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I may use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

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Prose[edit]

Lede[edit]

UEFA Euro 2008 Final was the final match of UEFA Euro 2008, the thirteenth edition of the UEFA European Football Championship, UEFA's competition for national football teams - awful lot of UEFA, maybe "The UEFA Euro 2008 Final was the final match of UEFA Euro 2008, which was the thirteenth edition of the UEFA European Football Championship. The competition run by UEFA, featured European national association football teams." At least then it isn't four UEFAs in one sentence. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:13, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've actually just chopped "UEFA" from the Euro 2008 and the Eurropean Football Championship links, I think they're quite commonly referred to without that anyway. If you don't like that I can always go with your split sentence variant though. — Amakuru (talk) 21:26, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- - That was pretty much what I was looking into doing, but assumed it wasn't right. Happy with this. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:21, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I think before the lede goes into depths about how the teams did getting to the final, it might be worth saying just a sentence on how the event was played. I.e. group stage and knockout Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 21:26, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lede says both teams were in group B. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. — Amakuru (talk) 21:26, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Spain won all of their games to win "finish top of"? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reworded with that terminology. — Amakuru (talk) 21:26, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
defeating Italy on penalties in the quarter-final and Russia again in the semi-final. - missing a word here... Reads now like they beat them again on penalties. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reworded to "a second victory over Russia"
started very poorly indeed". do we need "indeed"? It doesn't add anything. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Removed. — Amakuru (talk) 21:26, 21 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General[edit]

Qualifying rounds were played on a home-and-away round-robin tournament basis prior to the final tournament taking place in Austria and Switzerland, between 7 and 29 June 2008 - I think a brief overview of how the qualifying worked - how many teams in a group, how many total teams etc. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 10:21, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Germany had won the tournament three times before, in 1972 and in 1980 as West Germany, and in 1996 as Germany.[ - perhaps "Germany had won the title as West Germany in 1972 and 1980, and again in 1996 as Germany." Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
knocked out in the semi-final, - to whom? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Added. — Amakuru (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Spain had advanced to the round-of-16 in 2006, in which they were defeated by Spain. - they do sometimes say you are your own biggest rival Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lol. Fixed. — Amakuru (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
They had last faced each other in a competitive game in the 1994 world cup - what stage? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Added. — Amakuru (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Lukas Podolski gave Germany after 20 minutes - word missing Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 10:21, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
needed a draw - at least a draw. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Added. — Amakuru (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
"a cautious affair, with chances and quality at a premium", and it finished goalless - I usually request that attributed quotes have the source directly after them, even though I know you've sourced later on. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Fernando Torres scored the game's only goal in the first half. - needs a copyedit. You mean he scored in the first half, the only goal of the game. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Done. — Amakuru (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
no meaningful attacks so far, - to that point or another. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reworded. — Amakuru (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
, with the"Barcelona - spacing. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:30, 20 July 2021

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Done. — Amakuru (talk) 10:06, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Review meta comments[edit]

I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have a list of nominations for review at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these if you get time. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:25, 20 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Lee Vilenski: I think I've looked at all your points so far. Many thanks for the review — Amakuru (talk) 10:21, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Nice work, happy to promote. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:22, 22 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Did you know nomination[edit]

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The result was: promoted by Desertarun (talk) 09:40, 28 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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... that Spain's win in the UEFA Euro 2008 Final was the first of three successive major tournament victories? Source: BBC Sport, July 2012: "Spain have now won the last two European Championships and the last World Cup in South Africa"
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5x expanded by Amakuru (talk). Self-nominated at 14:38, 22 July 2021 (UTC).[reply]

Hi Amakuru, review follows: article passed as GA on 22 July; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't spot any issues with overly close paraphrasing form a spotcheck; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article and checks out to the sources cited; a QPQ has been carried out. Can't see any issues here - Dumelow (talk) 14:22, 23 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]