Talk:Total War: Warhammer

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WILL RELIC ENTERTAINMENT BE INVOLVED WITH EXPANSION PACKS?

RELIC DID GREAT WARHAMMER GAMES AND THEY LIKE CREATIVE ASSEMBLY ARE OWNED BY SEGA

Re:WILL RELIC ENTERTAINMENT BE INVOLVED WITH EXPANSION PACKS?

No, not likely.Relic works on the 40k universe while CA works on the Fantasy Universe centered around the Endtimes.

Writing Style

I think this article needs a a general re-write. The style is clumsy, with arbitrary lists of information in a bizarre order, and seems to depend on prior knowledge of the Warhammer brand. Well-meaning as it may be, the excited keyboard mashing of an excited fanbody hasn't made a great article. Perhaps somebody less lazy than me will give a rewrite a shot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.107.247.220 (talk) 18:43, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Generals

"Unlike other Total War games, lords ('generals' in previous Total War titles) such as Karl Franz will be featured in battles as well as the campaign map." Generals were available in all previous Total War games on both the campaign map and the battles. The only difference Warhammer presents is the fact that lords fight completely alone as a unit, not with 40 or so bodyguards. KarstenO (talk) 10:32, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Yeah I saw that as I was correcting the 'agent's bit. Technically it should refer to the agents - it was the Karl Franz bit that threw me, as he is a Lord not an agent. I might just revert my changes then re-edit it later to lay out the different Lord/agent relationship with regards to battles and strategy map actions. Only in death does duty end (talk) 11:05, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

And by 'later' I mean '3am after I stop playing'. Only in death does duty end (talk) 11:09, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Not Complete/Incorrect info

There are a few things that are missing and a few more things that are incorrect on this page. Firstly, it is missing the latest three DLC's, Blood for the Blood God, Beastman, and the Grim and the Grave. It is also missing more info on unique mechanics in the game. It also says that only unnamed agents can die but that is incorrect as there are no named agents, they can all die though it is difficult. As one of the previous articles has stated unless you know something about Warhammer this wikipedia page will not help you understand anything about it. It could use some more background information on warhammer in general to give people a more balanced view of the game. The writing style could also do with a rewrite as it seems a little less objective than it should be. Selkor (talk) 00:49, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

I keep meaning to get around to rewriting it but unfortunately I have spent too much time playing as Vlad Von Carstein recently to do so. The main problem with including backstory on Warhammer is it would large be repeated info from the Warhammer/armies article. RE Agents - this was written before it was out. Its meant to differentiate between the 'named' characters and the 'unnamed' generic ones (army lords etc) rather than the things like wizards/Thanes etc. Only in death does duty end (talk) 13:28, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Selkor the edit that you made is good, but already outdated. There is another large DLC called "The King and Warlord" that is similar to "The Grim and the Grave", and now also two legendary lord packs. "Wurrzag" and "Grombrindal The White Dwarf". Perhaps the downloadable content section should be formatted differently as, with it being a Total War game, will have quite a lot of them and in this case many different varieties. Ie: Race Packs, Legendary Lord Packs, Unit Packs. I've already included DLCs that add factions/legendary lords to the playable factions section and plan to keep that section up to date as more gets released. Nasta160 (talk) 2:46, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Yeah its had quite a few. My only defence is that I have been playing it too much to get around to updating the page. (Grombrindal makes a mockery of the savage orcs btw). RE DLC section, the best way (I think) would be to just have a general introduction about DLC and some info on the inclusion of access to steam mods, followed by a list (with a short explanation) of the DLC content. That way new DLC can be added to the bottom. It should probably be separated by minor DLC (individual characters like Grombrindal) and major DLC (Major Faction Changes) If I have time tonight I will mock up and post one here. Only in death does duty end (talk) 09:31, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

Playable factions section

I would appreciate it if there is a reason given why the playable factions section was removed from the article. It's something past Total War games have as well, this is simply formatted differently. Should it be removed, then please make a separate article just to show what can be played. It is of importance as it's a major part of the game, having unique play styles and giving Warhammer tabletop players more information on if their army/models are playable. Additionally it provides information for new people who don't play the game.

So if 117.192.153.90 could please state a reason, no one had any issues with the section previously. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nasta160 (talk • contribs) 11:09, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

It is an inappropriate content for this wiki. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Video_games/Article_guidelines#Inappropriate_content. Read rule 7.

Those kind of info are better off adding it this site http://wiki.totalwar.com/w/Total_War_WARHAMMER, http://totalwarwarhammer.gamepedia.com/Total_War:_Warhammer_Wiki and http://totalwar.wikia.com/wiki/Total_War:_Warhammer --117.192.153.90 (talk) 11:19, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Exactly, rule 7 clearly states gameplay items, weapons, or concepts, the playable factions are not unlocked through gameplay. They are purchased outside of the game in forms of Downloadable content. Furthermore it is a summary and does not go into specific details other than what had previously been mentioned in the article. And lastly, it follows the other Total War articles where they each state what/how many factions are playable and which are playable with DLC added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nasta160 (talk • contribs) 11:30, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Have you taken a look at Wikipedia:Good articles/Video games?. Those are articles how wikipedia strives for. If you want to take Total war has example then you should take a look at featured article such has Empire: Total War & Medieval: Total War. You should head over Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines and point them at this thread and ask them what you say was right and if they say it is right, then you are free to revert my edit. I still think that your edit is a guide and it is not appropriate for this wiki. --117.192.153.90 (talk) 12:24, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

I agree with Nasta160; while the table may have been slightly clumsy, the information contained therein did not constitute a guide and was in line with the 'broad strokes' methodology of Wikipedia in this context. In addition, in contrast to other Total War games, Warhammer has relatively few factions and has a more important role for Lords. If you were to list all factions and their leaders in Medieval it would be ridiculous, here it is not. Nt1192 (talk) 13:23, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, I agree that the table may have been a bit clumsy, however it is similar to the articles for The Sims in which they state what expansion adds what type of content/life states, etc. There are plenty of video game articles doing this, it is not too much information. They do indeed have few factions, and unlike other Total War titles, each faction is significantly different and are marketed for being different by Creative Assembly as are the Legendary Lords. Nasta160 (talk) 14:09, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

I have decided to re-add the playable factions section and keep it up to date. In the past several people have updated it as well and the general opinion seems to be positive. If anyone has issue with it, please report it, or be so kind to move it to it's own page if they feel it's not appropriate to have on the main page. Although many other games do have a similar table showing what content is playable and what DLC adds more elements to the game. Nasta160 (talk) 17:59, 25 December 2016 (UTC)