Talk:The Tyranny of Structurelessness

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Reference to "The Tyranny of Tyranny"[edit]

I just updated the reference to the text by Cathy Levine. Before the text said that she wrote the rejoinder in 2005, which seems utterly incorrect. The now newly referenced text from theanarchistlibrary.org says following below the text source:

Notes: Originally published in “Black Rose”, number 1, Spring/1979 (Rising Free Collective). Article by Jo Freeman originally published in the “Berkeley Journal of Sociology”, 1970, reprinted by ORA and the Anarchist Workers Association in 1972.
Source: Retrieved on May 5th, 2009 from http://www.angelfire.com/id/ASP/UNTYINGTHEKNOT.html

Further the here referenced page on angelfire.com tells us more on the genesis of the two texts (also about "The Tyranny of Structurelessness"). And the "UNTYING THE KNOT" series, mentioned in the last edit is also not from 2005 but from 1984 according to the angelfire.com page.

So, although I am not sure which page then would be best to reference, but at least the dates should point to the first published version of the text, I think. --Jackie Quing (talk) 20:49, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Missing the point[edit]

It doesn't actually say what the problem is, does it? Only says that there's a hidden leadership (by whom?) that gets denied. But how does that matter?

Reading the actual essay and it seems to say: the lack of formal structure does not mean there is no structure. There will inevitably be those with more influence and the fact that no one talks about it could cause problems (someone being left out of decisions etc). Also that structurelessness hinders the organisation of more specific tasks.

I'm bad with words so I'm not gonna edit it myself tho. --Melarish (talk) 12:11, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Timeline[edit]

The article seems to say two contradictory things. The first sentence says it was inspired by her experiences "in the 1970s", while the history section says it was created in 1970 (and therefore must have been inspired by earlier experiences)

Checked ref and fixed. User:Carolmooredc 03:42, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]


The article states that Freeman taught in SUNY for four years before receiving her PhD. I was at SUNY Purchase in 76-77 and took a class with her. Please check the timeline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:2C6:4300:6EE0:F9DB:2FE5:E8CC:39BE (talk) 21:41, 16 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Black Block?[edit]

I don't see how black block is a related topic — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.96.27.36 (talk) 10:37, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]