Talk:The Trooper

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Songs, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of songs on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.SongsWikipedia:WikiProject SongsTemplate:WikiProject Songssong articles

Metal

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Metal, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of heavy metal music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MetalWikipedia:WikiProject MetalTemplate:WikiProject MetalHeavy Metal articles

Battle of Hope[edit]

Can we mention the use of this song in World War Z? The army uses it to lead the zombies to them and it's totally badass. But I suck shit at Wikipedia-ing, so I'll just mention it here.

Covers?[edit]

Can we try and make a list of all the bands who have covered this song as I am aware that the following have: Children Of Bodom Dream Theater Coheed & Cambria

Vital Remains, Bound for Attack, and Morbid Angel have also covered it 75.40.60.114 02:04, 24 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
- As far as I know Children Of Bodom have only covered it live (if at all) and the version found on the web is actually by a band called Sentenced. RustyBadger 11:20, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, this article is very sloppy in the sense that there isn't even a divider between the main back story of the song before jumping right into the next paragraph about only two of the cover versions. Someone should include something noting that the song has been covered by "countless other artists as well" after the list, as that it's true, there are so many unrecorded/unsigned artists who perform this song. Xanofar (talk) 00:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Two I know of: Hand Of Doom Orchestra, on their album Hand Of Doom Plays Iron Maiden's Piece Of Mind and Scott Lavender on his album The Piano Tribute To Iron Maiden.Xanofar (talk) 00:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Iced Earth plays he intro at the end of the last disk of Alive in Athens, as a teaser to the crowd at the tail end of "Violate." Sherick (talk) 18:58, 24 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Music Video[edit]

In the music video for "The Trooper," what film did that footage of the Charge of the Light Brigade come from?

It comes from the 1936 version of The Charge of the Light Brigade, by Michael Curtiz with Errol Flynn, Olivia de Havilland and David Niven.--Darz Mol 19:15, 16 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

What is the significance of the poster? Why is this soldier holding a british flag?

Because it's from the point of view of a british trooper, perhaps?

The song is about the Battle of Balaclava during the Crimean War, and is at least partially based upon Alfred Lord Tennyson's poem "The Charge of the Light Brigade."

It is indeed. Marlinspike 16:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thats no soldier, thats Eddie! Magicana 06:11, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The article says it is from a different movie. 82.158.40.144 (talk) 12:30, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Lyrics[edit]

Can we get a list of lyrics, e.g. like on Flight of Icarus, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kris laRoye Jr (talk • contribs) 16:54, 10 May 2007

you can find them all over the internet. — Prodigenous Zee - 08:45, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pop References[edit]

Did anyone notice that in the TV Show "The 4400" in Episode 6 of Season 4, the character Curtis Peck was listening to The Trooper in his headphones? I forget exactly what the scene was and what he said about the song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.129.208 (talk) 05:09, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Iced Earth also has a song with cover art that looks very similar to The Trooper (it was intentional). It may be worth including that in the article. Xanofar (talk) 00:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Londonderry Mural[edit]

I added a bit about a mural in Londonderry in Northern Ireland. The single's cover art forms the majority of the mural.82.46.190.172 21:15, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Any links to the image would be appreciated. Partly for citing and also because I want to see it. :) Xanofar (talk) 00:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reference...?[edit]

The line "The single's cover art forms part of a Loyalist mural in the city of Derry in Northern Ireland." is followed by the little [1], with a link, presumably to a reference at the bottom of the page. However, when I clicked on the [1] it didn't go anywhere, and when I scrolled down I found out there isn't a reference section, and no reference [1]. It sounds to me like someone deleted a reference. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AnticScarab3 (talk • contribs) 01:34, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Signature Song?[edit]

I don't think you can consider The Trooper as a signature song... Andy Johnston (talk) 17:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WEIRD NOISES[edit]

In the trooper by iron maiden 29 secounds in the song there is this weird noise in the song i hear but cant figure out wat it is. can anyone help —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.129.228.102 (talk) 07:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Similarities[edit]

The article says "The song's famous riff features similarities to an earlier Iron Maiden song "Purgatory" from the Killers album.". Does it really? Funny how I've listened to both of them dozens of times and not noticed any similarities at all... Perhaps this sentence should be removed? 77.99.98.37 (talk) 09:57, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Music Video Clips[edit]

There is quite some weird errors in the music video section... Originally it said: "The single's accompanying music video included clips of a cavalry battle from the 1941 film They Died with Their Boots On, starring Errol Flynn... The band's manager, Rod Smallwood, has since criticised the decision, stating, "Anyone would think we'd killed the horses ourselves instead of using an old Errol Flynn movie."

The clips show British cavalry charging Russians, while They Died with Their Boots On is about Custers 7th Cavalry and their end at the hand of Indians at the Battle of Little Big Horn.
They Died with Their Boots On is in black and white; while the clips in the video are in color.
also the 1936 The Charge of the Light Brigade film is black and white.
the movie with all the dead horses mentioned was the 1936 The Charge of the Light Brigade; but that was in B&W and it clearly is not the one used in the music video.

I removed the section and replaced it with what is definitely correct: Namely that the clips used are from the 1968 British The Charge of the Light Brigade film. noclador (talk) 04:03, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The section in the article was quoted from the Official biography written by Garry Bushell. Although he clearly mistakes which Errol Flynn movie it is, it's not the 1968 film. Contrary to what you said, the clips in the video are not in colour and are clearly from the 1936 movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyqcZMsBOU4 - a clip from the '36 movie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uq6Ax-zzkQ - the Iron Maiden video.

On top of this, the band's manager clearly states it's an Errol Flynn movie, even though Bushell mentions the incorrect one. Nerdtrap (talk) 09:09, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the videos now and agree with you! The video I saw was a fan-made video. Thanks for pointing out the original! noclador (talk) 18:45, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Clive Burr[edit]

Hello,

The ex-drummer Clive Burr was part of the reason behind the 2005 reissue of this single, as he got diagnosed with MS, and the band did a benefit concert to raise money for his trust fund. I think this should be a part of the synopsis. Does anyone have any objections to this? Nuro msg me 11:30, 1 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just modified one external link on The Trooper. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:

Added archive http://www.webcitation.org/5hFf8iFDu to http://www.irishcharts.ie/search/placement

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}).

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:10, 21 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Genre[edit]

It's just heavy metal or also classic Rock & Roll? --Gabrielsus (talk) 22:43, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This song is about racism[edit]

This song is about racism against native Americans. I suggest removing it from the wiki to stop the spreading of misinformation.00:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)00:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)00:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)00:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)00:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)00:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)00:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)00:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)00:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)00:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)85.156.161.240 (talk) 00:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]