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Removed Text[edit]

I removed the following:

The Murder of 132 slaves, to collect insurance money.

If the weak and ill were found onboard after reaching

England, then the insurance money did not apply.

As a result, Captain Collingworth had them thrown overboard.

Turner's painting, and Punch magazine, contributed to

the downfall of slavery.

I'm not really sure how to integrate this into the article, or if it should be there... I'd like to hear other's thoughts. --Falcorian ^(talk) 04:22, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

About removed text[edit]

I was watching a program about Turner on PBS. It indicated that the painting was made preceding a conference on slavery to be held in London. Turner portrayed the story of the Zahn (sp. ?) a slave ship traveling near Jamaica whose captain threw overboard 132 slaves in order to collect insurance for cargo lost at sea. The painting was very poorly received by critics, included Punch magazine which lampooned the painting.

That was Simon Schama, in an episode of BBC's The Power of Art. Close attention to it would revise some of the inaccuracies in this article. --Wetman 04:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unreliable sources[edit]

I've just removed a number of unreliable references from this article. I'm in the process of updating a number of articles relatingn to the Zong Massacre, so hopefully will be able to improve it myself. But this is a famous painting by a well-known artist, and we can do better than blog posts and university coursework. Celuici (talk) 13:27, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Or frigging Gardner, ideally - that must devote all of three sentences to the work. Good luck. Johnbod (talk) 13:47, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Name[edit]

If Turner called it "Slavers Throwing overboard the Dead and Dying—Typhoon coming on", why is it now called "The Slave Ship"? Who changed it and why? Surely Turner's name for the painting is its proper name? 86.134.117.49 (talk) 10:01, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article has always been called this - it may be what the museum or Gardner's call it, but the original title should be used. Johnbod (talk) 10:27, 22 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and a question[edit]

What a great entry! Thanks. How did this painting come to be in Boston's Gardner Museum? The history of ownership of this work would be interesting to share especially given its subject and impact. Katewill (talk) 02:31, 29 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]