Talk:The Firm (Malaysian TV series)

Keep an eye on the episodes

Apparently the future episodes shown on this article are based on what was given in ntv7's website, but the actual run did not go consistently with the given synopses as of yesterday. Anyway I'll have to remove the future episodes from the article until they've been aired.

Fanatix 04:10, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 04:02, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

"it became quite apparent that it is quite different"

I think to say: "it became quite apparent that it is quite different [from The Apprentice]" is rather subjective. I don't think it's apparent that the show quite different. The overall concept is the same, the style of filming is similar - as is the music and the use of city shots to separate scenes. In fact, I'm amazed that the producers haven't been sued for plagiarism. The difference involving the team captains doesn't make it 'quite different' - it's still essentially the same as The Apprentice and anyone watching it for more than a moment would think so too.

Personally, I'd like to see the section edited to reword that description. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.51.126.125 (talk) 13:48, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

To understand this properly, you need to reference the article on reality television, specifically, the section on game shows, under the job search sub-section. Essentially, The Firm is an elimination style game show. The thing it has in common with The Apprentice is that the tasks are similar. However, these are tasks that happen in the real corporate world, The Apprentice cannot copyright or protect such tasks as it is not unique. They are normal everyday assignments. That is where the similarity ends. To say that it is a copy of The Apprentice would be to accuse every single singing competition to be a copy of a version earlier than itself, as they would all be similar in some ways.

Following are some of the key differences between the shows:

The Apprentice

The Firm

Contestants live together. There is only one judge. The assistants were not well known before the show aired. Assistants only observe. They do not assist or advise in any way. Assistants do not have the final say. Contestants get rewards throughout the competitions.

Contestants do not live together. This is a major difference. There are three judges at various stages of the competition. All three judges are well known corporate personalities in their respective industries. Judges are also mentors who advise the teams. This is a major difference. All the judges have the final say in their respective sections. They each eliminate contestants. Contestants do not receive rewards.

These variations are sufficient to make it "quite different" from The Apprentice. -- S Masters (talk) 07:33, 24 August 2008 (UTC)