Talk:Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)

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May be able to find an attribution of the duple/triple comment to Landon, but it has also been made in Schroeder, David (2005). The Cambridge Companion to Haydn. Chapter 7. Orchestral music: Symphonies and concertos. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. p. p 110. ISBN 0-521-83347-7. {{cite book}}: |page= has extra text (help) Schissel | Sound the Note! 05:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

name "drumroll"[edit]

there is also a sustained drumroll towards the end of the first movement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cimabue13 (talk • contribs) 18:49, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alternative finale[edit]

Antal Dorati's set of Haydn's symphonies includes an "alternate finale" to the Drumroll. Other alternative versions of the symphonies are discussed in their respective Wiki articles, but not this one. Can somebody who knows about this add a short discussion? Opus131 (talk) 23:44, 3 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There's two versions of the coda for the finale. One is 49 bars and the other 36. The difference is 13 bars in the middle which are cut from the longer version and replace by mm 366-367. The excised part includes more E-flat minor and a grand pause.DavidRF (talk) 00:59, 4 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I consulted Robbins Landon's Chronicle and Works and put in some discussion based on what I could find there. Opus33 (talk) 00:39, 5 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The "Sun"?[edit]

According to the article The Sun, the tabloid was published for the first time in 1964. There is no mention of another newspaper by this name at any time before that year, and apparently there was no "Sun" in the late 18th century. So where was this glowing critic of the first performance of the symphony was published? thank you, שלומית קדם (talk) 17:19, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for raising this issue. But could you please clarify a bit? You say "apparently" there was no Sun in the late 18th century, but you're not telling us your basis for thinking this. Who is actually denying the existence of the 18th century newspaper? On the other side of the issue, if Robbins Landon, a well-known Haydn scholar, quotes a passage from the 18th century Sun, I'm rather inclined to believe it existed. Opus33 (talk) 01:41, 15 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

To clarify, at your request, I said that apparently there was no "sun" at the time we are talking about, as there is no mention of such a newspaper or magazine in the article dealing with newspapers in the UK at all times. Either there is a mistake or an omission in that article, or this article is misleading, for though there is no link for The Sun, the only article by this name is of the tabloid. I'll be glad to see an article, or at least a mention of "The Sun" in the late 18th Century. Thank you, שלומית קדם (talk) 21:28, 17 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]