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Potential copyright issue's related to streetsound article[edit]

The article streetsound has been tagged for a possible copywrite violation. The reason for the flag, was a duplicate copy of the text was found on the website streetsoundmagzine.com/history.

I am both the author of the WP article and the external site. While the article was under consideration for publication, I placed the article on the external site, with the intension of linking to the WP article when and if it was published. The article underwent extensive editing from August to November. The WP article was approved for publication on November 20 by Cairo2k18 • (talk) • (contribs) 00:45, 21 November 2020 (UTC). And On November 21 the article was marked for speedy deletion. And subsequently updated to status to: This is now listed at Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2020 November 21. On November 22 user User:Jimfbleak advised me to declare my COI regarding the article as I was in the 80s and 90s employed by streetsound and am the publisher of the external site. I have now updated my user talk page to reflect the COI.[reply]

The current copywrite status of Streetsound is unclear. Street Media Ventures Inc (SMV) a Canadian Company was the last publisher of the Magazine. In 1999/2000 there was negotiations between SMV and New York internet company, Pseudo Programs Inc to buy the assets and services of myself and another partner, the sale was never consummated. In 2000 Pseudo Programs went bankrupt^[1] and SMV went dormant. In 2001 the assets of Pseudo Programs were bought but a company called INTV^[2].Its current status is unknown. In 2020 I acquired the domain streetsoundmagazine.com with the intention of digitizing the extensive print catalog of the magazine which I maintain. As I document in the article streetsound with over 80 issues and 10 years of history is often cited as source material in scholarly article on music and culture of the times. The site is purely a hobby venture on my part, I self-fund the hosting and all the digitizing of the content. I believe I have unique subject matter expertise on both streetsound and the music history of the time and that expertise is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia Chris Torella Ctorella 16:36, 22 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Ctorella: thank you for the explanation and apologies for the hassle. About 99% of the time we see content on Wikipedia that matches a website, it turns out someone here copied from the website in violation of the writer's copyright. So it's a breath of fresh air to see that's not the case here. Since you published your history blurb on Wikipedia first, you released it under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike license, and folks will (we hope!) continue to build on it here. You still hold the copyright to your text, so you're welcome to post it at your website as well (a note for anyone looking back at this message from the far future, Ctorella has shown that they do indeed manage the website by changing the text to reference Wikipedia here).

The only catch is a hypothetical for now: imagine some day in the future someone else comes along and improves this article. Their contribution would also be released under the Creative Commons license I linked above. You may see their contribution and think "Oh, great addition! I'll add that to my website!" In this case, you should be aware that you don't hold the copyright to the other user's contribution. You're welcome to use their contribution under the terms of the license I linked above, which means you could take their text and use it for whatever you please, so long as you attribute it to them (it's easiest to do this by noting that it's from Wikipedia with a link) and share your new webpage under the same license. That is, you can't claim copyright over contributions that aren't yours. To be clear, this is only a future hypothetical issue. It's completely fine now. So you're welcome to re-add your text to your website.

I hope that helps! Apologies for the long and slow response. I hope you're doing well, and thank you for sharing your expertise with Wikipedia! All the best, Ajpolino (talk) 03:23, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the detail on the hypothetical - I totally get that.. I think I will just leave the history to always live on Wikipedia since more people will find it here then on the archive site. I'm totally excited by the possibility of the vast network on former Streetsound contributors building on the history as well. Thanks for getting back Ajpolino and all the best to you as well.Chris Torella Ctorella 15:38, 31 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Gallivan, Joseph (2000-10-04). "PSEUDO FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY WHILE IT BUYS TIME, SEEKS BUYER". New York Post. Retrieved 2020-11-22.
^ Blair, Jayson (2001-01-24). "Assets of Pseudo.com Are Sold to New York Internet Company (Published 2001)". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2020-11-22.

[1] Gallivan, Joseph (2000-10-04). "PSEUDO FILES FOR BANKRUPTCY WHILE IT BUYS TIME, SEEKS BUYER". New York Post. Retrieved 2020-11-22.

[2] Blair, Jayson (2001-01-24). "Assets of Pseudo.com Are Sold to New York Internet Company (Published 2001)". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2020-11-22.

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