Talk:Steven Gerrard/GA1

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 13:13, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures[edit]

It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
It contains copyright infringements -
It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

Links[edit]

You'll need to replace the Daily Mail sources in this article. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:20, 16 June 2020 (UTC) Done[reply]
You link to youtube - you'd be better to cite the broadcast of the Match of the Day, or at least cite them as the publisher. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:20, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Where? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 10:54, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's currently ref no 270.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:04, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thanks. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 14:09, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Prose[edit]

Lede[edit]

Could we get a WP:short description? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC) Done[reply]
Could you remove the citations from the lede? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC) Done Although I haven't been able to "shorten" it very much.[reply]

All the refs in the lead? REDMAN 2019 (talk) 16:30, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If the information is already cited in the body, it doesn't need to also be cited in the lede. If it isn't, perhaps move the info to the body. The lede should be a summary of cited info from the prose. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:46, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs a good scour of WP:SEAOFBLUE, such as football manager Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC) Done[reply]
Watch out for words like "historic" Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC) Done As far as I can tell.[reply]
This lede needs a bit of tightening, there's some links in weird places, such as "fifth European title", which I'd expect to have a link to say a list of won events, rather than the event that they won (bordering on WP:EASTEREGG.) It also calls "Milan", with no wikilink, nor even the full name! Was it AC Milan, Inter Milan, Milan under 12s? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done Linked to AC Milan. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 10:56, 17 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Check for duplinks! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC) Done[reply]

General[edit]

International goals / International statistics - seems like a big old fancruft. Definitely flagcruft. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:23, 16 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Many articles have these tables. Some of them GA's like Harry Kane. I don't think removing or tweaking them is nessercery. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 18:54, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Some of those awards don't seem particularly important. BBC Goal of the Season, FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team, FWA Tribute Award etc. for example. There's also some that weren't cited. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:23, 16 June 2020 (UTC) Done[reply]

GA Review[edit]

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Review meta comments[edit]

I'll begin the review as soon as I can! If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA and FA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN and WP:FAC, respectively. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definitely not mandatory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

@Lee Vilenski: Thanks for reviewing the article. I just wanted to let you know that I won't be able to be on Wikipedia as much as usual over the next few weeks, so it could take me a while to finish working on the page. Cheers! REDMAN 2019 (talk) 13:28, 20 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for not being able to do much over the last couple of weeks but I should be able to do more now. REDMAN 2019 (talk) 12:35, 3 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from the one which I have left a reply to I have addressed all the points you have raised and I would like it if you have a look over the article and see if it passes GA criteria. (ps:sorry it took me so long, a unexpected delay cropped up in my personal life) Cheers! REDMAN 2019 (talk) 18:57, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]