Talk:Squatting in England and Wales

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"Conflict between original activists of the Family Squatting Movement and a newer wave of squatters"[edit]

I think a citation is needed here about conflict between these 2 groups. While I think it's fair to say that in the 1970s more people squatted for political reasons as well as out of economic necessity, I haven't read anything about conflict between the squatters in the 1960s vs the 1970s. Do you have a source you can share?

Similarly, there is a citation needed for this: "squatters who...decided it was a good way to save money." Most academic articles on this subject cite political activism and economic necessity as main reason why people squatted in the 1970s. People just wanting to "save money" doesn't seem accurate. Do you have a source you can share? rscooli — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rscooli (talkcontribs) 19:35, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here is that removed, unsourced text, for posterity.
By the early 1970s, there was a growing conflict between the original activists of the Family Squatting Movement and a newer wave of squatters who simply rejected the right of landlords to charge rent and who believed (or claimed to) that seizing property and living rent-free was a revolutionary political act or more practically decided it was a good way to save money. These new-wave squatters (often young and single rather than homeless families) were a mixture of anarchists, Trotskyists—the International Marxist Group (IMG) being especially prominent—and self-proclaimed hippie dropouts, and they denounced the idea that squatters should seek to make agreements with local Councils to use empty property and that Squatting Associations should then become landlords (or Self Help Housing Associations as they were sometimes styled) in their own right and charge rent.
Feel free to reinstate with independent, reliable, secondary sources. czar 03:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Note on CJA[edit]

"The Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 introduced section 6.1(A) and other provisions were added, which override this and give the right of entry to "displaced residential occupiers", "protected intending occupiers" (someone who had intended to occupy the property, including some tenants, licensees and landlords who require the property for use), or someone acting on their behalf." This is incorrect Displaced Residential Occupiers (DRO) and Protected Intending Occupiers (PIO) were covered prior to 1994 under Section 7 of the Criminal Law Act. The DRO procedure was usually missued, in that it only applied to a person (or persons) who were "displaced from their normal place of residence" by squatters which was unlikely to happen. It was used by the police on behalf of tenants who were illegally sub-letting their flat. When the sub-tenants changed the locks and refused to pay rent, claiming Squatters Rights, the police usually gave them 48 hours to leave. Similarly the PIO procedure was intended for someone who cannot move in because it squatted. The intention of the law was to protect people where the place had been squatted after the tenant had accepted the tenancy. Instead the landlord (city council) would allocate the property (sight unseen) to someone on the waiting list and tell them that this was the only chance to be housed etc and get them to sign authority for the council to act on their behalf to evict. Now first of all the prosepective tenant has only accepted viewing rights, they have not actually been granted a tenancy. Then Section 7 (as it stood then) only applied to the person intending to occupy. Not the landlord acting on their behalf. (This may have been cleared up under the 1994 Act). Noel Ellis 05:57, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

hiya, are you suggesting an edit to the article? Mujinga (talk) 15:05, 29 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]