Talk:Spartan hegemony

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To whom it may concern. I find that your comments on my wiki page were quite offensive and rude. I police wiki in an effort to keep bias and misinformation from spreading to the rest of the general populace. Thank you. Professor Thoth (talk) 19:28, 21 April 2010 (UTC)Professor Thoth[reply]

This section misplaced[edit]

This section "During the Spartan Hegemony in Athens there is evidence of criticism of democracy. A document in the 420s by a political writer known as the “Old Oligarch” demonstrates the anti-democratic sentiments in Athens. The “Old Oligarch’s” political outlook is shaped by his belief that the economic classes were the source to political motivation; this view is a direct rejection of democracy’s efforts to establish civil unity. The “Old Oligarch” argues that the polis by nature is a battlefield rather than a site of public dialogue because individuals side with their socio-economic rank[22]. Yet, despite this anti-democratic feeling, democracy eventually returned to Athens after the expulsion of the Thirty Tyrants." clearly has no place in the section Post Hegemony. I see no clear place where it can be placed since it seems to be about Athens internal politics rather than those of Sparta. Nitpyck (talk) 06:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I myself have been worrying about that section. I have only left it as it is because I can't make mind whether it should be cut completely or put in a new section. Feel free to cut it if you think best.Dejvid (talk) 12:23, 24 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Plutarch[edit]

If we're going to mention Plutarch as a source, why not Diodorus Siculus, who's a more important source for the 4th Century BC than Plutarch (and certainly than Herodotus and Thucydides, who were dead at the time)? john k (talk) 02:01, 20 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Administration of Spartan State[edit]

Out of the three articles Sparta, Spartan hegemony and Perioeci, there is little reference to how different city-states within the Spartan state were managed. The latter has the most information regarding this question. I think this an important question when considering how the Spartans maintained their hegemony.

In this article I found only the following:

"The perioeci were allowed to maintain their own infrastructures, administrative arrangements and local economy, but had to pay tribute to Sparta and provide soldiers for the military."

I am unsure if the citation given in the next sentence also applies to this claim. If it does, a new reference should be found by someone familiar with the topic as the reference is (imo) low quality (it is an unlinked PBS video).

I think it worthwhile expanding on how the Spartan state was managed. What inter-city-state political structures, if any, existed? Through what mechanisms did the spartan state control them? Or were they completely autonomous as long as they paid tribute and provided soldiers? FropFrop (talk) 05:44, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]