Talk:Salt of the Earth (song)

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Citations? References? Anyone? Anyone?[edit]

While everything in this article may well be true (even the authors interpretation of the lyrics and seemingly knowing what was in the minds of Mick Jaggers and Keith Richards when the song was written...), how do I know this is true? Where are the citations? Where is the Reference section? What supports the work? All I really know is that the 1st line is factually accurate. Buster 17:26, 9 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Number of Plays at a Concert[edit]

Might want to look into and possibly remove the section referring to how many times this song was played live. I know for a fact that this song was played at the Molson Canadian Rocks for Toronto concert (SARS Benefit Concert), and this is not mentioned, bringing the total up to seven. There may be several other times in which this song has been played that has been overlooked. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nesroninc (talk • contribs) 22:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Irony[edit]

I don't think it is fair to assume that a song written with cynical intent was performed either a) with irony, or b) an irony unpercieved by the audience in New York. A song, or any art for that matter, takes on meaning beyond the intent of the artist, and changes in its context. It is unlikely that Baez recorded the song in an ironic or dericisive manner, and it is unlikely that the Stones performed in the New York concert in a jibe aimed at the victims or the audience. The editorializing in this section is ham fisted and sort of rankles at a reader with even a passing familiarity at the impoirtance contect places on tone and artistic intent. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.225.161.177 (talk) 01:32, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anthemic[edit]

I remember reading somewhere that the creative nucleus of the Stones were trying to develop a longer, anthemic song, which they hope would define them and act as a concert encore piece in a way similar to Paul McCartney's Hey Jude. Salt of the Earth was the first attempt, but it left them unsatisfied. Their secoond attempt was You Can't Always Get What You Want, which turned out to better fit to what they were trying to accomplish. Properly cited, and I have no idea where I read that, that would be something important to add to the article. The songs appear to me to be similarly constructed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.2.186.10 (talk) 19:37, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bad Link?[edit]

This link uses parenthesis therefore does not work when referenced from other pages like Facebook. Can this be changed without breaking wiki links to this page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmacdwe (talk • contribs) 05:57, 12 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The interpretation of the lyrics is very problematic, likely original and subjective views of the editor.[edit]

The comments on interpretation are effectively a short essay with no citations. It is highly subjective and Wikipedia is not the place for original music criticism and deconstruction.

Giving my own subjective opinion (I'm not going to edit this into the article, just using to show how off the current version is), it misses the point of the song by ignoring this verse:

Spare a thought for the stay-at-home voter His empty eyes gaze at strange beauty shows And a parade of the gray suited grafters A choice of cancer or polio

The distance/alienation between the singer and the 'salt of the earth' is due to him being disappointed in the political apathy of the public. This likely means much of the sympathy expressed is sarcastic as the song blames people for suffering under a system they could change. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Registar (talk • contribs) 20:51, 31 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Contested deletion[edit]

This template should not be speedy deleted as not being usefully employed and being either a substantial duplicate or hardcoded instance of another template, because... (it is an easy way to see the track listing on this album) --130.74.185.235 (talk) 23:26, 6 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]