Talk:Royal Rumble (2015)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 December 2014

Its Arvind (talk) 11:57, 17 December 2014 (UTC) Romand Reigns is the First Man to Paricipate in Royal Rumble 2015

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Meaningless table in matches section.

I'd like to establish a consensus on this; is there any point to the Royal Rumble Match participants table in its current form in the Matches section? I have no problem with listing the participants, but I do not see the need to list "Announced his entry on XXXXXX" especially when it's already covered in the Background section. We should just list the entrants instead of using a table, like this. starship.paint ~ ¡Olé! 05:28, 6 January 2015 (UTC) Nowah Balloon who reverted me

I think the table is usless. We talk about it in the body. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 14:24, 6 January 2015 (UTC)

I don't think the date of announcement is relevant, period. It's not like they're announcing their entry in to the NFL Draft. A bulletted list and be done with it. CRRaysHead90 | ^#RaysUp 03:33, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

• Exactly - no one has brought up any evidence that the date of announcement of entry is either significant or has some consequences; couple the fact that the matches section is supposed to be a concise summary. starship.paint ~ ¡Olé! 04:57, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
• It's been over 50 hours since I started this discussion, with no opposing comments, so I'm going to follow CRRaysHead90's suggestion of a bullet list. starship.paint ~ ¡Olé! 13:03, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

• Thanks Vjmlhds for coming up with the current format, which is even better than the bulleted list IMO. starship.paint ~ ¡Olé! 02:37, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

WE WANT TABLES! (clap, clap, clap clap clap)

But no, not for this. Just entrances and exits. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:28, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2015

Curtis Axel won the rumble, as Roman Reigns exited the ring over the top rope after he was declared the winner and Curtis Axel was never eliminated by anyone.

151.63.175.177 (talk) 04:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

This is the complete truth. WWE announcers are obviously mis-reporting it. Curtis won, where's the stipulation you need to enter to win? Even if that's there, all Curtis has to do is enter the ring, since the match is still on and there are no opponents left. Ranze (talk) 04:18, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

No. No. **NO** There is a rule that implies you MUST finish the match. If you are taken out of the match for any reason (injury, walking out and not returning, etc.) YOU ARE ELIMINATED AND DISQUALIFIED (yes, there are disqualifications). And before you even attempt it, yes Hornswoggle hid under the ring but he eventually got pulled in. Yes Santino sat outside the ring until everyone but he and Daniel Bryan were left but he had to return to the ring (and the referees didn't stop the match). retched (talk) 05:21, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  ^B E _C K ^Y _S A ^{Y L} E _S  05:22, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

29 versus 30

I got reverted here but I think I have a legitimate point. Whatever was promoted or intended, a 30-man rumble did not happen since Curtis Axel did not enter the match.

If Teddy Long comes on Smackdown and changes a 1v1 match into a tag team match then we write that a tag-team match happened. If a 2v2 match becomes a 2v1 handicap because 1 guy never shows up then we should report that as well.

In this case, what happened was a 29-man rumble. Only 29 men entered, only 28 were eliminated.

This was a 30-man DRAW, but only a 29-man RUMBLE, because to Rumble, you have to legally enter the match, not just get drawn for it. If Axel counts as a number in the match then he would have to be eliminated for Roman to win. So there are only 3 options:

1. The match has ended on 28th elimination because Curtis was disqualified for not entering in time, and it was a 29-man match.
2. The match has ended on 29th elimination because Roman Reigns stepped over top rope to eliminate self.
3. The match has not concluded because neither Axel or Reigns exited over the top rope.

Continuing to call it a 30-man rumble is false reporting, it isn't what happened. Ranze (talk) 04:44, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

This isn't false reporting. 30 people appeared to participate in the Royal Rumble. One just happened to got attacked before entering. There is a precedent for situations like this when superstars were attacked heading in. I point you to the 2004 Royal Rumble and see when Spike Dudley got attacked from behind by Kane. Same EXACT circumstances, 30 people entered, 30 people eliminated via some method. This is a pointless debate and should stay as previously stated. We count Curtis Axel as a "Did Not Finish" and therefore is NOT the winner. retched (talk) 05:14, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Didn't this also happen at the 2005 Rumble?? I don't remember who, but one of the cruiserweights was attacked by Muhammad Hassan after his elimination, I think, and never really entered the ring. I do wonder, though, if WWE is gonna say Erick Rowan ended up being the entrant. There have been a few cases of people attacking others and entering the Rumble instead of them (e.g., Mabel in 1999), though these are normally backstage attacks. We'll see what they say, I guess... Andresg770 (talk) 05:56, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Nice catch Andresg770. Scotty 2 Hotty was assaulted before entering the ring and therefore was also a "Did Not Finish". However, the rule remains the same. You need to enter the ring within a certain amount of time or else you are disqualified. There is no questioning of the winner of the match as the match was called. I will continue to edit and delete any attempt at changing the winner of these rumbles and will report it as vandalism however. retched (talk) 06:06, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Savage in 1991. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:33, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Another one that follows the same concept. (I didn't even think to go down the line. I just picked one or two for brevity since I was dealing constant conflicts while trying to edit because someone thought it was funny to change the winner to read "Chris Benoit" or "Curtis Axel" or out right vandalize the page. retched (talk) 02:04, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Axel as "entrant" discussion

Should Axel be under the column "entrant" if he is not considered to have actually entered the match. Axel's number and name were drawn but if he did not enter then should we leave the column blank with a note? Ranze (talk) 04:52, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Axel should be left alone. The same editing procedure should be followed from the 2004 Royal Rumble. There is a precedent before. Please stop trying to edit the page to say 29-man Royal Rumble or to say that Curtis Axel "didn't enter". He did enter the match, though he didn't clock any in-ring time.retched (talk) 05:14, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

He was in the match, he just didn't make the ring. He forfeited. If they have a singles match and a guy forfeits, they still ring the bell and announce the winner. If there's a winner, there's a loser. The guy who shows up doesn't beat himself. Same deal in a bigger match. One winner, 29 losers. One just lost before he began.

Remember, the effectiveness of a pro wrestling move or the application of a rule depend on the storyline more than anything. Rusev was beat a lot harder than Axel, but found the strength to carry on because it was a plot twist and he's a major player. Axel was obliterated because he was a prop in someone else's story. Until WWE thinks fans care enough about his plight to make a real angle of it, it doesn't matter how big a deal any fan makes of it.

If we let in your views, what's stopping me from noting how terribly The Ascension needs steroids? InedibleHulk (talk) 19:31, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Mine or Ranze's? retched (talk) 02:06, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Erick Rowan and Curtis Axel

So I might regret bringing this out, but I was perusing WWE.com's match results for the Royal Rumble and came across this paragraph:

Dudley was surprisingly effective in the bout considering his 10-year absence from WWE, but he found himself outnumbered by Bray Wyatt and Luke Harper who double-teamed the ECW icon and dumped him from the ring. The Wyatt Family reunion turned awkward when Erick Rowan, who hadn’t qualified for the Rumble, attacked No. 6 entrant Curtis Axel and stole his spot in the match. Rowan tangled with his former comrades only to be dismissed from the match alongside Harper by The Eater of Worlds. Source: http://www.wwe.com/shows/royalrumble/2015/2015-royal-rumble-match-26911327

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but it seems like WWE is actually saying Erick Rowan ended up being the entrant in the match, right? Andresg770 (talk) 03:54, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

The article notes that Rowan "hadn't qualified for the Rumble", and was "dismissed" rather than eliminated. During the contest, Michael Cole stressed on commentary that Rowan "did not qualify for the Royal Rumble match" and was "not an official entrant". So I don't think it's appropriate to consider him one of 30 legitimate combatants. Phieuxghazzieh (talk) 09:58, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Also "stole". Nothing legitimate about stealing. I like how WWE pretends Bubba was just sitting on the couch in Dudleyville all this time. InedibleHulk (talk) 18:05, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2015

Nobody want to understand that "gonna be a fight tonight" by danko jones is the official theme song for rr 2015, not that taylor swift's music shit 5.14.14.246 (talk) 13:19, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Done once I found a source. Next time, please provide a source yourself. Thanks, NiciVampireHeart 13:49, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2015

Don't add your Taylor Swift shit! 5.14.14.246 (talk) 14:02, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Fauzan^{✆ talk}_{✉ mail} 14:06, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 March 2015

If anybody didn't see the reference for the official theme for royal rumble 2015, fuck your stupid taylor swift shit! The official theme is "gonna be a fight tonight" by danko jones. 5.14.133.193 (talk) 12:25, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

 Not done Please provide a reliable source for your claim. And in future, don't swear on talkpages. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:36, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 March 2015

Hey, I think that user doesn't like danko jones. That's why he's changing the theme song for rr 2015 5.14.145.72 (talk) 12:22, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

 Not done as you have not requested a change. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. --I am k6ka ^{Talk to me!} _{See what I have done} 14:22, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Can someone fix and lock this page

Some jackass has messed around with it. Can someone fix this and then lock the page?

Fixed the vandalism Expandinglight5 (talk) 02:35, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Well considering there's been at least one more incident of vandalism since you put this request up - coupled with the vandalism that predated that - I've put the page on Pending Revision status for the next while. See how that works. Tabercil (talk) 00:26, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Curtis Axel elimination criteria

To qualify as being eliminated from the match (he maintained on the preshow to the 2016 Royal Rumble that he's still in the 2015 one) would Axel have to be thrown over the top rope of a ring in the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia? I know he has been thrown over the top rope in rings since then but pretty sure they were in other cities so it wouldn't count. 184.145.18.50 (talk) 14:13, 25 January 2016 (UTC)