Talk:Role-playing game/Archive 3

WikiProject Role-playing games

There has just ben started a new Wikiproject regarding Role playing Games. If you would like to join, please go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Role-playing games and add your self. Angelbo 13:02, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Superhero RFC

Hi, I added an RFC under Media for this, but would anyone here like to look at it also? At Talk:Marvel_Super_Heroes_(role-playing_game) There is a short discussion about whether to include a price/product list on the article main page. This list was deleted once but now it's back. Should it stay or go? Markspace 00:33, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Borderlands

(moved from User_talk:Muchness#Borderlands)

Why do you keep removing my link?.... Borderlands is not only a collection of numerous places to Role-play, but it's a resource for role players. Look under role-playing resources at our site and you'll find glossaries of role playing terms, players manuals for helping people learn to role play, and FAQs about role playing. Please stop removing the external link, it has just as much right there as the rest of the external links. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Truemper (talk • contribs) 21:30, 14 March 2006

Borderlands is a site for a genre-specific role-playing game; the community links section for this article is limited to notable general role-playing sites that provide unique resources beyond the scope of this article. The resources you mentioned are specific to Borderlands – the only general purpose RPG resources on the site are listed as "under construction". --Muchness 08:56, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

My mistake, one area of content should have been up already, but now it *is* available at: http://www.pbem-portal.com/trek/borderlands/rpg_encyclopedia.shtml There are also a few other areas that you must have missed in there for RPG help... the Player's Manual for one is a huge tool for people wanting to learn how to get started in a freeform RPG. I did look at ALL the rest of the links however, and I think that you're right that we don't belong in there. Before I had just looked at Elite Role Play.... and that's just like what we offer, though I would argue it has less in the way of resources. That's the reason why I thought our site belonged. That site does not belong with the rest of the resource sites however, and I'm going to remove it. I won't try and re-add my link unless that one gets added back on (because like I said, we're no different than that). —This unsigned comment is by Truemper (talk • contribs) 08:06, 15 March 2006.

Unisystem needs help

The article on Unisystem is in really bad shape, and I think there should be another one for Cinematic Unisystem. I don't have a lot of access to the system, but I hear about it all the time. Just thought I'd post it here in case someone could give it some attention.Rycanada 00:41, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

As far as I can tell there are no articles at all about Unisystem, and the only Unisystem based game I could find with an article is All Flesh Must Be Eaten, not even one for the Buffy game. Since I have no knowledge of the Unisystem there is little I can do to help with a fleshed out article about the system. I did find, and corrected, a number of links related to Eden Studios, Inc. the company responsible for the Unisystem. Hopefully someone with some practicle experience on this subject can help out. Asatruer 06:12, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Elite Skills Role Play

(moved from my talk page) --Muchness 14:50, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you could tell me what the problem is. You're the only one deleting links. I think you're just removing them so you can have your own site listed high. In the meantime I'll keep adding until another person removes or gives an actual reason besides consulting the manual, which I know well.}

-ip 71.11.209.105 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.11.209.105 (talk • contribs) 02:28, 10 April 2006.

My concern is that the site you're adding does not provide substantive and/or encyclopedic content; the link appears to have been added solely to promote the site, which is expressly prohibited by WP policy. External links sections can quickly fill up with marginally relevant links (see Wikipedia:Spam Event Horizon), and this has been a problem with the role-playing games article in the past. Can you tell me why the site should be added to the article? Please note that I'm not the first editor to object to the site's addition.

Yes, it's true my site does not contain role playing encyclopedic information. Check out the chess page. It doesn't have only sites that talk about chess, though majority of them are. There's many links on where to playchess. Many of the people interested in this topic may be coming to find the biggest places to play online, not learn more about what other people think roleplaying is and read through dictionaries of other people's creativity. GAIA online, being the most massive roleplaying games site on the internet has no right to be excluded from the wikipedia role playing games site either. My site and a few other good sites were listed for quite awhile, before you came along. Now it's full of unpopular role playing information sites with weak google pagerank.

71.11.209.105

First issue, you refer to it as "my site", let me direct your attention to the External Links policy bullet 9 about self promotion. Second, one bad article does not excuse another, not to imply that the chess article is bad, but just because one article has inappropriate external links, does not justify another article having them. GAIA online shouldn't not be linked from the role-playing game page due primarily to it not being a table-top role-playing game but also from the fact that it most likely breaks the EL to normally avoid 4, maybe a link from a MMORPG article, or even an article about GAIA online itself, but not here. As for unpopular role-playing info with weak google pageranks, Wikipedia is not an index of popular sites. If someone wants to look up the most popular sites for one line forum based role-playing, they should probably be looking elsewhere. — Asatruer 21:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Haha you're so right. Everyone that comes to the roleplaying article here obviously just wants to read about roleplaying. Everyone who is interested in roleplaying obviously reads roleplaying dictionaries all day of other people's creativity for fun. Role playing is super broad and can be anything, any attempts to provide "encyclopedic content" about it is ridiculous. Those sites aren't resources for the majority of people that will come to this articile, they're just stupid unpopular internet dictionaries that no one will read, or really links to(google rank), because haha, get this, NO ONE READS ROLEPLAYING DICTIONARIES, or finds them interesting. Ooo linking the most popular free site on the internet is so wrong, we should list several trashy ones instead that only talk about roleplaying! No interactive stuff, that's heathonous. I obviously agree. You have to understand there's people who role play online, a LOT OF EM, and it at least justifies another grouping of links thats called online roleplay or something. I hate that little kids like to moderate categories. Chess is obviously a bad article full of incompetent people, even though it's been featured once or twice as best article. -71.11.209.105

Finally, please assume good faith; I'm not associated with any of the web sites linked in the article, my only concern is ensuring we keep the external links section in line with Wikipedia guidelines. --Muchness 14:50, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

The only reason I had never deleted the Elite Skills links before was because Muchness has always gotten to it first. The Elite Role Play site only offers a place to go and role-play, not any of the resources and content that the other links provide. — Asatruer 03:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Once again quit removing GAIA. Learn to edit links instead of just removing them if they dont work Muchness. The forums listed there are no different from the stupid GAIA site. It's like listing facebook, and yahoo 360 but not listing myspace under social networks. I don't care if you think it's gay, it's the most popular so just add the thing. It has its own wikipedia article too. Oh and illumirate is one of the bigger directories. Do your research before you act as an authorative figure on the links section. -71.11.209.105

With respect, I ask you again to review WP:EL guidelines. As Asatruer mentioned earlier, a link to the GAIA article may be appropriate from the Massively multiplayer online role-playing game or play-by-post gaming articles, but it doesn't belong in the external links section of this article. A link to one directory is occasionally acceptable, and the DMOZ link and RPG Gateway portal are more comprehensive resources – the illumirate link had only 29 sites. --Muchness 16:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Japanese RPG's?

Why is there no mention of Japanese RPG's in the article? I was suprised to find nothing about well known RPG titles such as Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest. --TBC^{??? ??? ???} 00:25, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

There is a Computer role-playing game article that is more appropriate both of those console rpgs. — Asatruer 20:44, 18 April 2006 (UTC)