Talk:Robert Rossen

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Good articleRobert Rossen has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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DateProcessResult
March 22, 2009Peer reviewReviewed
June 8, 2009Good article nomineeNot listed
January 19, 2011Peer reviewReviewed
February 19, 2011Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on November 16, 2008.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that after first taking the Fifth Amendment in 1951, director Robert Rossen named 57 people as Communists to the House Un-American Activities Committee in 1953 to escape the Hollywood blacklist?
Current status: Good article

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Sources[edit]

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Googles: --Philcha (talk) 12:09, 21 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See articles on RR's films, etc.

General[edit]

Early life[edit]

Only scraps about Rossen's personal life. I Googled until I was blue in the face - and no bio of Rossen on Google. I even asked New York University, where Rossen studied, for help but they had nothing. A Very Dangerous Citizen: Abraham Lincoln Polonsky and the Hollywood Left (by Paul Buhle & Dave Wagner) says (p 249) "Rossen has no proper biography" - the book says Casty's book (1969) is the nearest to a bio. --Philcha (talk) 09:33, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Stage career in NY[edit]

Hollywood career to 1949[edit]

Communism & HUAC[edit]

Marriage & family[edit]

Career 1953 to end[edit]

Rest of life[edit]

Reception[edit]

Credits[edit]

Loose ends[edit]

Can anyone help with any of these?

Marriage(s)[edit]

(update - will update if/when out sources commented)

Robert Rossen (filmreference.com) says RR married Sue Siegel in 1954. The source is Doug Tomlinson, a researcher & critic, so I'd treat this as reliable:

But RR's son Stephen died 2007 at 67, i.e. was born 1940, see Paid Notice: Deaths: Rossem, Stephen, M. in NY Times April 19, 2007. At sometime Stephen wrote about the impact of RR's troubles with the HUAC, which is consistent with Stephen's being a boy at the time. On the other hand Ellen married in 1992 (Weddings; Ellen Rossen, Av Westin, in NY Times October 25, 1992). All this suggests Stephen was the sons by a 1st marriage in the 1930s, while Ellen looks more like a daughter of the 1950s. However, there seems no evidence of a first marriage in the 1930s. --Philcha (talk) 16:56, 22 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Buhle & co's book & quote[edit]

At Buhle, Paul and Dave Wagner (2002). Radical Hollywood: The Untold Story Behind America's Favorite Movies. New York, The New Press. ISBN 1565847180. p. 386 - described as Rossen's "triumph and very likely his corruption". The only commentary I can find is Book Review: Radical Hollywood: The Untold Story Behind America, which criticises the quote as unexplained and the book as full of doctrinaire leftism. --Philcha (talk) 22:50, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Pyrotec (talk) 22:31, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I will review. Pyrotec (talk) 22:31, 17 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! --Philcha (talk) 09:04, 18 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Overall summary[edit]

GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

A well-referenced and apparenly comprehensive article on a film director.

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    Well referenced.
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    Well referenced.
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I'm awarding this article GA status. Congratulations on producing a fine article.

Whilst it does not pertain directly to the article, I was somewhat surprised by the statement (and red link): The Hollywood Writers Mobilization Against the War, a body to organize writers for the effort in World War II. The title "The Hollywood Writers Mobilization Against the War" seems to be a direct contradiction of the explantion "a body to organize writers for the effort in World War II", but as that article does not exist I can't check it. Pyrotec (talk) 14:23, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lede needs work[edit]

The lede is WAY too much. Much of it is repetition of what comes later. Plus, it is chronologically perverse, starting off in 1949 then jumping back to the 1930s; it seems to be a lede that has its own lede. People who are far better known and had a far greater influence on the world than Rossen don't merit a lede that's anything like as detailed as this one is. -- Jack of Oz [Talk] 02:36, 9 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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