Talk:Robert Muller (United Nations)

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Dr. Muller's life intersected mine a few times and I would like to contribute to building this article. My Wikipedia edit experience is limited, tips & assistance welcome. Skylab72 (talk) 03:40, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Azzhole Robert Muller (born 1923 in Belgium, died September 20, 2010) was an international civil servant with the United Nations. Assistant Secretary-General for 40 years, his ideas about world government, world peace and spirituality led to the increased representation of religions in the UN, especially of New Age Movement. He has become known as the "Philosopher" of the UN.

--attention: Dear Editors, as you can see this page has been desecrated (his name!)

I object to the deletion of Robert Muller's page from Wikipedia. Each morning, for several years already I have been receiving Muller's ideas, a few at the time, from the Good Morning World organization. Muller's ideas for a better world are full of deep wisdom. They may sound utopian to the "realistically" minded people, but they are much wiser than the currently prevailing dystopian attitudes of ripping as much of material benefits as possible in the shortest time possible, at the expense of one's own health (see billions of dollars worth pharmaceutical industry) and happiness (see percentage of people on antidepressants), and the environment. It is the time to realize that the looming climate change caused by the "realistic" approach to human affairs will not result in the brought gradually, nice, warmer temperatures. It will result in drastic natural disturbances with consequences that can't be foreseen. Only "realistic" (in another words lacking imagination) people may ignore this fact. We badly need to hear from utopists like Muller to prevent this from happening. The presence in Wikipedia can help Robert Muller ideas to became better known. Kaczdan (talk) 20:46, 5 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

74.239.209.92 (talk) 09:14, 12 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your thoughts. However, Wikipedia does not exist as a promotional tool for a person's ideas - no matter how worthy. I still feel that this article should be deleted, but I will look (again) for some usable (i.e. reliable, independent) sources - if I cannot find those, I will take this to Articles for deletion, for a community discussion. I will notify you should this happen. Regards, PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 05:35, 6 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please have a look at our requirements on a neutral point of view. I'm sure Muller was a nice guy, but the article still must be neutral, not a CV or puff piece. We also don't need an exhaustive list of everything he ever did. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 06:31, 11 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Phantomsteve. I agree with you that the page, in its current state qualifies for deletion. Actually, it feels like already deleted, by means of deleting almost all content, by Seraphimblade. If you were looking carefully at the revision history you could see that Seraphimblade did arbitrary changes to the page on May 11, just a few hours before you entered it. You could also see that it happened when I was in the middle of editing the page to show that Dr. Robert Muller meets fully the notability criteria required by Wikipedia. All the edits, reflecting Dr. Muller's life and work, I did on request from, and with approval of the Good Morning World organization. In this situation I ask you to restore the page to the state it was before Seraphimblade did his/her work. Thank you. Kaczdan (talk) 18:24, 12 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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