Talk:Pontyclun railway station

A fact from Pontyclun railway station appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 12 February 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Pontyclun railway station, previously called Llantrisant, was originally two separate railway stations that were later merged into one?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2011/February.

Wikipedia

Trains: Stations / in UK Low‑importance

Trains Portal

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Trains, an attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to rail transport on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and/or contribute to the discussion. See also: WikiProject Trains to do list and the Trains Portal.TrainsWikipedia:WikiProject TrainsTemplate:WikiProject Trainsrail transport articles

Low

This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

Associated projects or task forces:
/
	This article is supported by WikiProject Stations.
	This article is supported by WikiProject UK Railways (assessed as Low-importance).

Wales Low‑importance

	Wales portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Wales, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Wales on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.WalesWikipedia:WikiProject WalesTemplate:WikiProject WalesWales articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Merge discussion[edit]

I propose merge of Llantrisant railway station into Pontyclun railway station because there is no real need for two articles. In other situations where a UK station is closed and reopened on the same site, even after a gap of nearly thirty years, we have a single article; again, where a station is renamed, we have a single article. Cases are not unknown where the name after reopening is not the same as it was before previous closure, and again, they share an article. See, for example, Llansamlet North/Llansamlet; Lostock Junction/Lostock Parkway. --Redrose64 (talk) 17:12, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Simply south...... 18:25, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Makes sense to me. One site, one article. Readers will find the article more easily, and the crossover will be more informative. Daicaregos (talk) 19:10, 27 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support - articles overlap in several ways. WVRMad•Talk•Guestbook 12:08, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Not enough differences in content to justify two articles. Alzarian16 (talk) 13:39, 30 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date[edit]

I've performed the merge although i found, other than citations needed, one fact that contradicted itself three times. In the category, it said the station opened in 1860, in the infobox 1863 and on this current page in 1861. Which is correct? Simply south...... 20:07, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Checking online sources (not sure which if any of these would be considered reliable): local history site says station opened 1861; library site says line opened 1860, no word on station; and this one says another line into the station opened in 1863. So maybe all of them are correct! Alzarian16 (talk) 20:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Butt has two stations at Llantrisant, one on the GWR (this one), and one on the TVR. The GWR one is shown as opd 1850, closed 1964; the TVR one opd 1865 and "amalgd with GW station 21 September 1925". --Redrose64 (talk) 20:57, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Added info and refd it. Synchronised infobox and cats. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:12, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. Simply south...... 23:53, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

OK, have glanced through

Barrie, D.S.M.; Baughan, Peter (1994) [1980]. David St. John, Thomas (ed.). A Regional History of the Railways of Great Britain, volume XII: South Wales. J. Allan (Revised ed.). Nairn: David St. John Thomas. pp. 171 et seq. ISBN 0-946537-69-0.

it would appear that the 1860/1861/1863 dates refer to the opening of branch lines from Llantrisant, some of which ran only to collieries or ironworks. I can't give full details of these branches - I found it in the reference library in Reading (not loan stock: and in any case I live in the wrong local authority so prob. couldn't get a Reading lib. card); while there, I only had time to make the briefest of notes, reproduced below:

Llantrisant became junction 2/8/1860 w/opg of 1st branch of the Ely Valley Rly (Llantrisant-Penygraig)

2 more EVR branches opd 1/62 (Mwyndy Ironwks; Gellyrhaidd Colly)

EVR leased to GWR 1861

Llantrissant [sic] & Taff Vale Junction Rly: Llantrisant Branch Jct (Treforest) to EVR Mwyndy bch at Maesaraul, opd. 1863 (goods), 1865 (pass)

Not much; but I have at least found what 1860 and 1863 refer to. Need to build on that; but the railways of the South Wales valleys are a real maze. --Redrose64 (talk) 18:18, 4 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.