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On 4 March 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Doudrop to Piper Niven. The result of the discussion was moved.

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Requested move 10 August 2021[edit]

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The result of the move request was: Not moved per consensus, probably WP:TOOSOON. No such user (talk) 12:59, 18 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Piper Niven → Doudrop – The wrestler in question has been known by a few names: Vyper/Viper form 2009 to 2019, Piper Niven from 2019 to 2021, and Doudrop since mid-2021. Her appearances as "Doudrop" have been on the programme WWE Raw which has a significantly higher viewership than the programmes on which she appeared as Piper Niven. Piper Niven is therefore not the name she has used for the longest period of time or the name she has used on the platform with the most exposure. McPhail (talk) 11:07, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support as nominator. "Doudrop" is the name under which she has had the most mainstream exposure. McPhail (talk) 11:08, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. I'm not convinced that Doudrop is the WP:COMMONNAME, and I'd like to see some evidence that it is. A google search for Doudrop (with speech marks) turns up 91k hits; a search of Piper Niven nets 739,000. Is there substantial evidence that this is her common name, besides her being signed to Raw? — Czello 11:48, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose Too soon. Doudrop could be just a (temporary) storyline-based ring name; e.g. something like Shorty G. She still does not have notable matches, event/PPV/tournament appearances, championships, or achievements as Doudrop. Wario-Man ^talk 18:05, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
- Does she have them as Piper Niven? McPhail (talk) 19:15, 10 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, she does have some notable appearances/matches as Piper Niven: Mae Young Classic (2017), WWE Worlds Collide (series), a title match at NXT UK TakeOver: Blackpool II plus two more title matches at NXT UK, and NXT UK's first-ever mixed tag team match. Performing on Raw brand is notable but her current storyline is still ongoing. Currently her matches are just week-by-week stuff. As I said, her new ring name could be temporary (a part of the storyline with Eva Marie). Wario-Man ^talk 14:00, 11 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All those events aired on the WWE Network though. I'd suggest that her appearances on a globally televised TV show trump them. McPhail (talk) 08:15, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose - Per WP:TOOSOON. Hansen Sebastian^Talk 07:17, 17 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 10 October 2021[edit]

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 10:47, 17 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Piper Niven → Doudrop – In my opinion, her new ring name has become stable. Here are some reasons:

Not reverting back to Piper Niven: "Backstage, Sarah Schreiber interviewed Doudrop. She she said that Eva thought she was putting her down by giving her the name Doudrop, but she likes the name and is keeping it."[1]
Appeared as Doudrop at SummerSlam (2021), drafted as Doudrop (2021 WWE Draft), and competing as Doudrop in Queen's Crown tournament
Had a title match as Doudrop[2]
Does have her own entrance theme[3]
The reason why I opposed the previous requested move was because it seemed "Doudrop" was a temporary name and it was just a part of the storyline (alliance with Eva Marie). The storyline ended and now she competes as Doudrop. PW sources have started using Doudrop and Piper Niven is history.
Now her main roster run is as notable as her time in Mae Young Classic and NXT UK. Mann Mann (talk) 08:52, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support, her appearances as Doudrop have been on television programmes with a far larger viewership than those on which she appeared as "Piper Niven", so Doudrop is the name by which she is best known. McPhail (talk) 19:25, 10 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Change name[edit]

Change name from Doudrop to Piper Niven Aloofbobcat (talk) 22:09, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Aloofbobcat: You need to start a requested move. --Mann Mann (talk) 05:28, 2 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 7 February 2023[edit]

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Grammar correction. In the part talking about the tag team tournament says begund at August. It should read began in August. 2600:100B:B1C1:1BA9:38C8:38F5:C5A4:79AF (talk) 13:49, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:54, 7 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 4 March 2023[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 01:42, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Doudrop → Piper Niven – She changed her ring name about a month ago; I feel there is no reason to keep referring to her by the old one. I don't believe WP:COMMONNAME applies to what we already have. MushroomMan674 (talk) 22:25, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support per sources [4] [5]. See WP:NAMECHANGES. 162 etc. (talk) 23:56, 4 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom.--Ortizesp (talk) 18:20, 6 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Comment that's the same reason given for the change to Doudrop a few years ago. If she left WWE or changed the name again, I'm sure there is gonna be another discussion. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 16:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support It seems like her Doudrop name will, in the grand scheme of things, be a fleeting and forgotten thing. WP:NAMECHANGES wins out here, I think. — Czello 16:30, 7 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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