Talk:Philosopher's Stone (Fullmetal Alchemist)

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Shouldn't "Philospher's stone" be consistently capitalized as "Philosopher's Stone" since it's a proper noun? It doesn't seem consistent in the article. Echocharlie 13:29, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Kind of unencyclopedic

I have seen Full Metal Alchemist, so I understand what is being said in this article. But while I was reading, I thought, "what would a mom think after reading this article?" (Here the "mom" serves as an archetype for someone older, completely unfamiliar with anime, and completely foreign to FMA.) Remarkably, I don't think they'd learn one single bit of knowledge about anything from reading this article. It's written in a way that makes sense if you've seen Full Metal Alchemist, but not in the style of an encyclopedia article. I think it really needs to be cleaned up. -- Soapergem 03:55, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Your complaint strikes me as really about the notability- here's this nice big article which goes into detail about it, but it never really makes it clear why all this material exists or has been gathered together. I took a stab at rewriting the intro to try to make the importance of the Stone clear. --maru (talk) contribs 06:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone else think that the terms "Red Stone" and "Incomplete Philosopher's Stone (I guess I'll call that an IPS) are too often confused here? I'm pretty certain that the IPS were the ones used in the watches, but I could be wrong. Anyway, my point is, it isn't entirely clear that they are two seperate stones made in different ways, with completely different power sources (IPS is souls, RS is chemistry)

The very anime is unclear on the matter. We all know that red water flows naturally in certain spots, like the town where the Tringham Brothers had their lab, but no one knows insofar why, or when. In fact in the manga there's no distinction between the two types of stone, they're all complete stones. But Scar's arm, the unique example of an uncomplete Philosopher's Stone in the anime, still draws energy by the Red Stones. So, they all can be the same. DrTofu83 10:20, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Well, in the anime, Ed was all excited when he found a small vial of incomplete stone material (ep.14?), knowing it wasn't a true Stone, but in Xenotime (earlier in the continuity), he looks at a whole stream of Red Water and is completely unsurprised at its existence. This clearly indicates a difference in the anime, and should be noted.

Alchemy operates both on chemistry and consumption of souls. Being made of Alchemic amplifiers, which might have either property, it would make sense that Red Stones would yield a reaction from Scar's arm.

"Given its toxicity, appearance and alchemic significance in the plot, the "red water" material of the stone is probably cinnabar."

um... I don't think this exactly belongs here. it looks like spectulation to me 216.183.142.208 (talk) 07:42, 16 December 2007 (UTC)