Talk:Philadelphia transit strike of 1944

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DateProcessResult
September 26, 2010Good article nomineeListed
Did You Know
A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on August 5, 2010.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that the Philadelphia transit strike of 1944 started when black transit workers were allowed to hold jobs previously reserved for whites?

Looking for images to add to the article[edit]

I have been looking for images to add to the article but so far have had trouble finding free images or images satisfying our WP:NFCC fair use criteria. The explorepahistory.com website hosts a couple of relevant images that are currently linked in the External links section. I particularly like this image[1]. The image comes with a caption ""Credit: Courtesy of Temple University, Urban Archives, Philadelphia, Pa." I contacted the Urban Archives and it turns out that the image is still copyrighted. They gave me the source information about the photo -it comes from an Aug 1, 1944 article in Philadelphia Evening Bulletin titled "WLB Tells Union to Get Men Back on Job at Once". The copyright to the image was subsequently acquired by the Urban Archives and is current. The really bad news is that they charge regular commercial rates for the reuse of their images - they gave me the forms and the rates. Apparently they have a large image collection and the fees for reuse of these images represent a substantial source of income for the Urban Archives. I asked them if they'd be willing to release this particular image under a free license acceptable by Wikipedia, but they declined. I think that a fair use claim would not be acceptable under these circumstances, since NFCC#2 does not appear to be satisfied in this case. The book of Wolfinger[2], used as a ref in the article, also has several images related to the strike, but they all are also credited to Urban Archives, Temple University, so there would be the same kind of a problem with a fair use claim. I have not found other images directly related to the strike (free or copyrighted), so if someone has other ideas of where to look, please suggest them here. I was also thinking about a more generic image - e.g. an African-American driving a streetcar (anywhere, not necessarily in Philadelphia in 1940s), but after quite a bit of google-searching I have not found anything suitable so far. Nsk92 (talk) 08:22, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Philadelphia transit strike of 1944/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Nikkimaria (talk) 13:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I'll be reviewing this article for potential GA status. My review should be posted shortly. Cheers, Nikkimaria (talk) 13:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I am placing this article on hold for seven days to allow time for the below points to be addressed. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:56, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks. I'll start working on addressing your comments in the next few days. Nsk92 (talk) 03:17, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Writing and formatting[edit]

  • Try to avoid over-using words like "all" and "some", which are often unnecessary
    • I have cut a few of those, but you may want to have another look. Nsk92 (talk) 13:20, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Avoid very short paragraphs and subsections - merge to improve flow
    • OK, I have merged a few paragraphs together. However, I did not see any subsections that warranted merging. Nsk92 (talk) 13:28, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Possibilities: merge "Actions of the local government" with "Public reaction"; merge "Inter-union struggle" with "Run up to the strike". Nikkimaria (talk) 14:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Since even before..Philadelphia became" - grammar
  • "The Philadelphia Transportation Company (PTC) run the city's huge public transportation system" - grammar
  • "NAACP" -> "the NAACP"
  • Check use of hyphens and dashes- see WP:HYPHEN and WP:DASH
    • OK, I went over the hyphens/dashes and tried to do my best to fix them up. However, I must admit that this is the part of WP:MOS that I am not really up to speed on. So you may want to give the text a look-over in this regard and see if things look all right. Nsk92 (talk) 12:43, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Be consistent in the use of African-American vs black
    • Fixed. Since "African-American" is a rather modern term that would not have been used in the 1940s, I switched to "black", for consistency. Nsk92 (talk) 09:58, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "more fair" -> "fairer"
  • "Philadelphia Rapid Transit Employees Union (PTREU)" - check acronym
  • "allow promotions by black employees" - "of" instead of "by"
  • "open skilled positions that would be open" - repetitious "open"
  • "Frank Carney, an ousted union leader staunchly opposed to non-discrimination policies," - no need to say that since Carney was discussed earlier
  • "the "D-Day" for white workers has arrived" - verb tense
  • "Luzerne street" -> "Luzerne Street"?
  • "In the morning of Augus 1" - grammar + spelling
  • "even before the strike has spread" - verb tense
  • "TWU union" - redundant
  • "The White House' official reaction" - grammar
  • "mayor Samuel" -> "Mayor Samuel"
  • "unrest episode" -> "episode of unrest"
  • "no death or critical injuries among the public" - "deaths", and wasn't a boy shot?
    • I clarified the sentence - the boy was shot but not critically injured. Nsk92 (talk) 06:13, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "All the city's newspapers run editorials" - verb tense
  • "Seven of the eight black trainees have resumed their training" - verb tense
  • "the PTC has finally agreed" - verb tense
  • Don't link terms in See also already linked in article text

I have done some further copy-editing and am now mostly satisfied with this criterion. Nikkimaria (talk) 14:36, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Accuracy and verifiability[edit]

  • "At the time of the elections many white workers perceived the contract issue to be more important, where the TWU was promising more attractive terms, and they did not consider promotions of black employees a realistic possibility. Despite the TWU victory, animosities from white workers towards the black employees remained and were largely unabated" - source?
  • "Germany, as well as Japan, were apt to use every instance of racial unrest in the U.S. for propaganda purposes." - source?
  • Don't repeat full source information in Notes for sources included in References
    • There were three such items. For the TIME article I reduced its description in the Notes to article name+journal name. The other two items were two different sources by James Wolfinger. Since they have the same author, I reduced their description in the Notes to author name+name of the source article/book+relevant page numbers. I hope this is OK. Nsk92 (talk) 05:34, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Convention here is usually to either list author+date, or to use author+a shortened version of the title.
  • References should be in alphabetical order
  • Use a consistent format for notes
    • OK, I tried to clean up the notes format for consistency - please check if you still see problems there. Nsk92 (talk) 05:34, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • A minor problem remains with note 11
  • Cite by author's last name instead of title for shortened citations
  • Note 23: title? Pages? Author (if signed)?
    • Replaced by a different ref, with publication details provided. Nsk92 (talk) 05:34, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Broad[edit]

No issues noted

Neutrality[edit]

No issues noted

Stability[edit]

No issues noted

Images[edit]

  • Consider alternating which side images are on instead of stacking them vertically
  • Source link for first image is dead
    • Back in August, when I was working on the article, GoogleBooks provided a preview for the entire 1944 article from The Crisis where this image comes from. I see now that as of this moment only snippet view of the article is available in GoogleBooks[3]. I removed the dead link from the image page description. However, I hope the inclusion of the image is still OK even though an online version of the source article is not longer available; the publication details for the print version of the source article containing the image are provided, including the page number where the image occurs.
      • Yes, that's fine
  • Roosevelt image - source link is dead, and author information suggests the photo was taken by an AP photographer, which nullifies the licensing tag
    • I replaced this image by another image of Roosevelt from Commons where licensing appears to be in order. Nsk92 (talk) 05:21, 26 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I've just had someone email in this picture although the unit had since moved on to Europe. I don't know if that is helpful? PanydThe muffin is not subtle 17:37, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New Image[edit]

I know nothing about these sorts of things but this is the unit that patrolled Philadelphia in their car after they had moved to Germany? Is this helpful? PanydThe muffin is not subtle 17:39, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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