Talk:Pauline Newman

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Redlinks to court opinions[edit]

I had removed the links to the court opinions, because there are no Wikipedia articles for those links to go to. BD2412 has reinstated those links. Why?

If BD2412 wants to write those articles, that is excellent! In the meantime, though, I think it is best to remove the links until those articles appear. Otherwise, the links don't point to anything, and just show up as red, non-functioning links.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnE (talk • contribs) 19:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There should be articles on those two cases in particular, as they are reproduced in casebooks (especially Jazz Photo). There is no principle in Wikipedia that red links ought to be removed, and in fact they are encouraged because they signal the presence of topics for which articles are needed (see Wikipedia:Red link). Cheers! bd2412 T 20:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Photo[edit]

There must be a better photo of this judge available. This news article uses an image from C-SPAN. Can that be done here? 129.176.151.19 (talk) 20:26, 7 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The one being used is pretty bad, but C-SPAN images aren't automatically public domain. Anon a mouse Lee (talk) 16:29, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would tend to suspect that a public domain image exists and can be found, though. BD2412 T 23:02, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've looked and that is the only thing in Commons for her and that appears to be a cropped from the court's website. I've also searched the National Archives, court's website, The Senate, etc. The Reagan Library might have a public domain image since he nominated her. P37307 (talk) 00:53, 11 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Two possible improvements[edit]

When comming to the article to orient myself about her I missed two topics. Firstly I would have loved to read a one-sentence summary of her usual position as a judge, in the sence that you often read about conservative or progressive judges but more elaborate - what does she stand for ? Such a summary in an easy to find location would be great particularly if someone doesn't have the time to read the full text. Secondly and of less importance more or less any other such article has a section named "Personal Life". Surely there must be at least some information available ? 92.193.169.181 (talk) 09:39, 21 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Newly added content moved from the article for discussion[edit]

I have removed the following newly-added content from the article for discussion:

Some legal commentators draw parallels between the refusal of the US Supreme Courth Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg to retire even after Barack Obama visited her office in 2013^[1] ^[2] (which eventually resulted in Ginsburg's replacement with Amy Coney Barrett) and Pauline Newman's refusal to step down volutarily, when her slowness started to affect the efficiency of the Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit.^[3] After these events some legal analysts called for a mandatory retirement age for judges in the USA.^[4] However, such change may require a constitutional amendment, because Article Three of the United States Constitution is interpreted as not providing for such mandatory retirement.

While it may turn out to be true that legal commentators have drawn such parallels between Justice Ginsburg and Judge Newman, none of these sources say this. This is because three of the four sources (the two NYT articles and the Atlantic article) were publisher in 2020, years before the controversy with Judge Newman arose, and are entirely about Judge Ginsburg. The fourth source, the IP Watchdog letter from former Judge Michel, says nothing about a mandatory retirement age, nor about Judge Newman's rate of production affecting the efficiency of the court (Judge Michel does say that "continuing the status quo is no way to ensure swift and efficient justice", but this is in reference to the ongoing disciplinary process, not to the judge's productivity; and he does mention Justice Ginsburg, but only to say that "no one ever reasonably accused Justice Ginsburg of being mentally unfit to remain on the bench, despite her declining physical stature". BD2412 T 17:06, 18 October 2023 (UTC) BD2412 T 17:06, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

Keynote remarks, ABA, October 2023[edit]

Just dropping a random tidbit that may or may not be of interest. In October 2023, while suspended for mental fitness, Judge Newman delivered the keynote remarks during the 2023 IP Fall Institute, sponsored by the American Bar Association Section of Intellectual Property Law. 1 Interview(video): A Talk With Judge Pauline Newman P37307 (talk) 19:19, 18 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/25/us/politics/rbg-retirement-obama.html

[2] ttps://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/21/magazine/ginsburg-successor-obama.html

[3] ttps://ipwatchdog.com/2023/07/09/chief-judge-moore-v-judge-newman-unacceptable-breakdown-court-governance-collegiality-procedural-fairness/id=163181/

[4] ttps://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/supreme-court-retirement-age/616458/

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