Talk:Operation Deep Freeze

Multiple operations

The article seems to be a bit of a mess, stating that the operation was from 1955 to 1956, but then adding that control over it was handed over to the National Guard in 1996, with nothing about this being a new Operation Deep Freeze or much of what went on in the intervening 40 years if it was still the old one. Rlquall 02:58, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

• There seemed to be some confusion between "Operation Deep Freeze" and "Operation Deep Freeze I", which I've tried to rectify by rewriting the introductory paragraph and adding some headings. I think the article still needs plenty of work to bring it up to scratch though. Matt 20:08, 1 September 2006 (UTC).

I agree. My father served on the U.S.S. Wyandot, one of the freighters of Operation Deep Freeze (I), which took place 1957-1958. Yet there is no mention in the article of that mission, nor of the II or III mission. Each operation is deserving of its own article, in my opinion. — Loadmaster 00:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC) (Corrected 00:57, 10 November 2015 (UTC))

Narrative flow of the following passage

I do not see how this passage connects to the paragraph:

The 109th believed that it to be an exercise in futility for its aircraft to deploy to the Antarctic to merely await for emergency SAR missions so it asked if the Navy could help carry cargo to the South Pole. The Navy resisted at first because its procedures and cargo configurations differed from those of the Air Guard, but eventually it agreed. The main mission of the U.S. Navy and Air National Guard C-130s was to airlift fuel and supplies to the National Science Foundation's South Pole Station so that its personnel could survive in isolation during the long Antarctic winter which lasted from February to October.

The paragraph in particular talks about the 109th Airlift Wing providing Search and Rescue support to the Navy. If waiting for SAR's are pointless, what does this have to do with cargo. At the time it was part of the navy's remit to move cargo.The passage would have made more sense if the navy devolved authority for cargo transport to the wing, but the wing gave it back if they felt it overextended their capabilities, or that SAR operations was a massive commitment of resources. The passage could also work if this authority was suddenly imposed upon the wing, and they reluctantly agreed to the quid pro quo arrangement in exchange for not moving cargo.

Followup:

I believe the offending passage to be a case consistent with a "stream of consciousness" situation, where the writer is unaware that he or she placed two disjointed thoughts in close proximity of each other, which could of been easily prevented with a bit of proof-reading.

2015 Mission

The following appeared on a military discussion board. The author is a 30 yr. Navy career man. It could be a lead for more info. Speaking of Deep Freeze:

“Stopped in in 1991, for Navy went back in 2015, for Navy mission. PLEASE  Read my **** post it was a Seabee mission and there was two winter over and summer over. There was more than the scientific part of the mission. It was our mission and that is why it ran out of PT. Hueneme, and they flew the C130's out of Point Mugeue, CA.”

Later in the discussion:

“YOU KNOW WHAT, I HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND THIS IS WHERE I AM GOING TO POST THIS AND BE BLUNT ABOUT IT. OPERATION DEEP FREEZE WAS A VERY IMPORTANT MISSION TO THE US NAVY AND THE SCIENTIFIC WORLD. THERE WAS TWO MISSIONS ONE SCIENTIFIC AND THE OTHER WAS TOP SECRET MILITARY NAVY MISSION, I WILL JUST SAY THIS, THE NAVY HAD TO KEEP EYES AND EARS ON THE RUSSIANS. THIS MISSION WAS A VOLUNTEER MISSION AND YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH SOME ROUGH ASS EVALUATIONS AND TEST TO GET ACCEPTED TO THE PROGRAM, AND IT WAS AVERY IMPORTANT SECRET MISSION.SO IF YOU DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT YOU NEED TO SHUT THE **** UP. THIS MISSION AND MANY BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN THAT TOOK PART AND RISKED THEIR LIVES TO ACCOMPLISH THE MISSION, AND KNOW IT WAS NOT A KICK THE DOOR DOWN MISSION LIKE SEALS DO FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT WAS A VERY SENSITIVE AND IMPORTANT MISSION ALL THE SAME. The other thing is not all secret missions are SEAL missions so everyone needs to shut the **** UP unless they KNOW what missions are and were.”

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Deep Freeze or Deepfreeze?

Does anyone know why this article has the operation name written as two words instead of one? The squadron patch for VXE-6 clearly spells it as Deepfreeze, not Deep Freeze. This official U.S. Navy page spells it as one word, too, as do some entries on the USGS website for feature names. Am I missing something? Should this article be revised to reflect the one-word naming convention? PlacidEchidna (talk) 08:09, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

References

PNR for C130 60S.

This "point of no return" was carried out by RNZN launch class frigates which were not really equipped to operate in such conditions as were experienced. Actually experienced major repairable destruction. MervGrew (talk) 07:41, 31 March 2024 (UTC)