Talk:One Piece/Archive 6

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Manga split

The consensus is against splitting, at least for now.

Mazewaxie (talk) 18:36, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

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Should we split the manga too? We could create One Piece (manga) and make One Piece about the franchise in general, like it was done with Dragon Ball. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 12:43, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

• Support --Panda619 (talk) 20:01, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
• Support - Size seems to warrant splitting the anime and manga from the franchise. Argento Surfer (talk) 15:03, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose - The series is very popular, but its not as big as Dragon Ball. The Dragon Ball (manga) article is much bigger than the current article for One Piece.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 23:34, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose unless there would be a need to have further coverage in regards to the anime's making which this article fails to write.Tintor2 (talk) 23:45, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
• Oppose unless - Agreed with Tintor2. There would need to be futher coverage with regards to the anime's making. Timur9008 (talk) 20:31, 15 August 2019 (UTC)

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Jarring lack of plot summary

A year or so back, I wrote up a brief summary of the plot of the series. However, it was kneejerk undone because "we already have a summary". However, what we have is information on worldbuilding, not an actual plot outline. I was told that "manga series don't need plot outlines", except I can pull up any other manga series such as Fullmetal Alchemist, Naruto or Dragon Ball and get a decently thorough summary of the series.

Can someone give me an actual argument for why a plot summary isn't warranted, outside of "it's how it's always been done"? If not, I'm putting the summary back up. Buh6173 (talk) 07:05, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

You brought this up last time and there was no consensus for a plot section to be made: Talk:One Piece/Archive 5#"Plot summary" section removed. As previously said, the premise section is enough. 1989 (talk) 10:57, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

How? What about One Piece makes it somehow immune to a plot summary? The premise gives a vague notion of things that happen, without actually going into detail on what happens in the plot. Why should One Piece be exempt for whatever reason? And how is a single paragraph saying what the series is about without actually detailing the plot enough?

Also, if I recall correctly, the conversation only involved about 3 people (you being one of them), and you for whatever reason seem stubbornly against the notion of actually explaining the plot of the series when every other manga/anime article under the sun does. One Piece shouldn't be exempt just because "it's long". Buh6173 (talk) 16:31, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

@Buh6173: Fullmetal Alchemist, Naruto, and Dragon Ball are complete and well-defined plots that can be reviewed and summarized. The big difference with One Piece is that the plot is still progressing and we don't have a concrete end to the series. Having a premise is more beneficial at this moment. Once the series has officially ended, we can attempt to summarize the entire plot.

I'm not against the idea of One Piece having a summary of the plot that highlights the beginning, middle, and end of the series. IMHO, it's best to wait until the series ends to make sure we summarize it appropriately.Blue Pumpkin Pie ^{Chat Contribs} 16:46, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Isn't the premise good enough for this super-long series? That works for Case Closed as well. But if you can create a super-condensed summary as with Naruto then maybe it could work. It has to be concise though. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:47, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Case Closed has the distinction that, as far as I'm aware of, it doesn't really have an ongoing plot and is more of a mystery of the week kind of thing, whereas One Piece does in fact have an ongoing story. And while I understand the desire to wait until all is said and done, I feel for someone who wants to know the plot of the story, comes here, and gets literally nothing but "Here are the main characters, they go on adventures". Also, I did write what was a rather condensed plot summary, and I could condense it even more if needed. It would be better than the current choice of...nothing. Buh6173 (talk) 16:52, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

As far as I'm familiar with, there are two core arcs in One Piece, the first is the "Super Rookie Saga" that is completed and then there is the "New World saga" that is still ongoing. I believe the first arc I'm sure can be summarized to the extent that you are considering. I personally recommend 350 words or less. For the New World Saga, i still recommend keeping premise-format.Blue Pumpkin Pie ^{Chat Contribs} 17:03, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

See also Fairy Tail's plot section. Note how a lot of the arcs are condensed or not even mentioned. The detail you have on Gol D. Roger and Luffy's background is not needed for the intro. That's covered by the premise and the characters section. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 18:11, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Plot proposal

Part 1 - Sea of Survival

Super Rookies Saga

Legendary pirate Gol D. Roger is sentenced to execution, but not before challenging people across the world to find his great treasure, One Piece. This causes a surge of pirates to sail out in search of his treasure, resulting in the Great Pirate Era.

12 years later, a young Monkey D. Luffy accidentally eats a Devil Fruit, the Gum-Gum Fruit, which gives him the physical properties of rubber while rendering him unable to swim. His childhood idol, Shanks, gives his straw hat to Luffy and inspires him to one day become the Pirate King and find One Piece.

7 years after Shanks' departure, the 17-year old Luffy leaves his island to gather a crew and enter the Grand Line. During his travels he meets and recruits swordsman Ronoroa Zoro, navigator Nami, marksman Usopp and chef Sanji. With Going Merry, a ship provided to the crew by Usopp's friend, the group sails into the Grand Line, a sea route where One Piece supposedly resides.

The crew meets Vivi, the young princess of the nation of Alabasta who is being hunted by Baroque Works, an assassin organization run by Sir Crocodile. Escorting her to Alabasta, the crew recruits Tony Tony Chopper, an intelligent shapeshifting reindeer who serves as their doctor. At Alabasta, Luffy defeats Crocodile. While Luffy wishes for Vivi to join the crew, Vivi stays behind for the sake of her country. Crocodile's former second-in-command, Nico Robin, sneaks onto Luffy's ship and requests to join the crew, which Luffy casually accepts.

The crew then ascend into the sky by riding the Knock-Up Stream, an explosive sea current. They travel to a land in the clouds called Skypiea but are swiftly branded as outlaws for illegal entry and are sentenced to death by the island's "god", Enel. Luffy defeats Enel, saving Skypiea from his rule. Taking as much gold as they can carry, the crew returns to the ocean below.

The Straw Hats next arrive in the floating city of Water 7 where they hope they can find someone to repair and maintain the Going Merry. Their money is stolen by the Franky Family criminal gang; the Straw Hats defeat the Family, but their leader, Franky, escapes with the stolen money. Usopp furiously leaves the crew after Luffy decides to buy a new ship. A secret Government organization, CP9, captures Usopp, Franky and Robin to bring them to Enies Lobby, a judicial island. The Straw Hats travel to Enies Lobby and barely manage to defeat CP9 and reunite with the others. They escape Enies Lobby thanks to the sudden appearance of the Going Merry; however, the Merry falls apart shortly after their escape, so Luffy sets the ship ablaze. With the money he had stolen, Franky builds the crew a new ship, the Thousand Sunny. Luffy goads Franky into joining his crew as his shipwright, and he accepts Usopp back into his crew after Usopp apologizes for his actions.

The crew then arrive at Thriller Bark, a massive ship the size of an island. They meet Brook, a skeleton musician who Luffy asks to join his crew. After the group defeats Gecko Moria, the master of Thriller Bark, Brook joins his crew and they travel to Sabaody Archipelago. A massive battle breaks out and Luffy and his crew are completely overpowered and sent flying to opposite ends of the world. Luffy arrives at Amazon Lily where he learns that his brother, Portgas D. Ace, is slated for execution. At his execution at Marineford, the Marine headquarters, Ace's father is revealed to be Gol D. Roger. His crew, led by the aging Whitebeard, and the Marines engage in a massive war, which Luffy and his allies eventually join. Luffy frees Ace, but Admiral Akainu lands a fatal blow, causing Ace to die in Luffy's arms. Jinbe, a fishman Luffy befriended during the battle, manages to escape with the comatose Luffy in tow. Luffy awakens two weeks after the war's conclusion, and rather than attempt to reunite with his crew, he uses a secret message in the newspaper to instruct them to train for two years.

Part 2 - The Final Sea

The New World Saga

Two years later, the crew reconvene at Sabaody Archipelago and set sail underwater to Fishman Island. When they arrive, they are caught up in an attempted coup by the fishman Hody Jones, though the Straw Hats defeat Hody and his crew. They then return to the surface on the other side of the Red Line, entering the second half of the Grand Line known as the "New World". They arrive at the island Punk Hazard, where they defeat and capture the mad scientist Caesar Clown, who was working for the warlord Donquixote Doflamingo. The Straw Hats, Caesar and Trafalgar Law travel to Doflamingo's home, Dressrosa, where a massive country-wide battle takes place that concludes with Luffy and his crew defeating Doflamingo's forces.

Sanji is captured by the pirate emperor Big Mom to be married to her daughter, so the Straw Hats travel to her territory to retrieve him. The crew then travels to Wano Country, where the emperor Kaido rules over the land.

Buh6173 (talk) 17:47, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

I'm going to be very blunt, it's not well written. It just strings events together and doesn't even try to make sure the most relevant points are being highlighted. Making a plot summary should focus on keeping the key plot points that help move the story forward, and a lot of the content doesn't explain why it's relevant. it's extremely long and goes passed the recommended word count.Blue Pumpkin Pie ^{Chat Contribs} 18:35, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

I could narrow it down further, but then I run the risk of losing even more important details. It's a big series with a lot of things that happen. But at the same time, "no summary" is not an acceptable answer. Buh6173 (talk) 19:05, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

There is a summary, it’s the premise section. Just because it’s not a Plot section doesn’t mean it’s not a summary. 1989 (talk) 19:17, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Technically the Premise is a summary and they can be acceptable. I'm willing to give the idea of a more detailed plot section a chance and see if its possible without adding too many unnecessary details. You should only add in the most relevant plot points that help move the story forward. If there is an arc that you believe is relevant but doesn't change how the story is told, it's best not to go into detail or highlight it at all. You have to think if it makes sense to first-time readers. if it doesn't make sense, then you're doing something wrong. Try to avoid throwing in names, locations, or jargon without properly introducing them. After reading your proposed summary, as someone who doesn't watch One Piece, some of the plot points were not clear why they were relevant to the overall plot. I definitely recommend reading Naruto and get inspiration on how it formats its information.Blue Pumpkin Pie ^{Chat Contribs} 19:21, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Alright, here it is trimmed down further.

Part 1 - Sea of Survival

Super Rookies Saga

Legendary pirate Gol D. Roger is sentenced to execution, but not before challenging people across the world to find his great treasure, One Piece. This causes a surge of pirates to sail out in search of his treasure, resulting in the Great Pirate Era. 12 years later, a young Monkey D. Luffy accidentally eats a Devil Fruit, the Gum-Gum Fruit, which gives him the physical properties of rubber. Shanks, his childhood idol, gives his straw hat to Luffy and inspires him to one day become the Pirate King and find One Piece.

7 years after Shanks' departure, the 17-year old Luffy leaves his island to gather a crew and enter the Grand Line, a sea route where One Piece supposedly resides. During his travels he meets and recruits swordsman Ronoroa Zoro, navigator Nami, marksman Usopp and chef Sanji. With Going Merry, a ship provided to the crew by Usopp's friend, the group sails into the Grand Line. The crew meets Vivi, the young princess of Alabasta who is being hunted by Baroque Works, an assassin organization run by Sir Crocodile. The Straw Hat Pirates defeat Crocodile and Baroque Works, along the way recruiting Tony Tony Chopper, an intelligent shapeshifting reindeer who serves as their doctor. While Vivi stays behind at Alabasta, Crocodile's former second-in-command, Nico Robin, joins the crew.

The Straw Hats later arrive at Water 7, where they hope they can find someone to repair and maintain the Going Merry. Their money is stolen by a criminal named Franky, and Usopp furiously leaves the crew after Luffy decides to buy a new ship. A secret Government organization, CP9, captures Usopp, Franky and Robin to bring them to Enies Lobby, a judicial island. The Straw Hats travel to Enies Lobby and barely manage to defeat CP9 and reunite with the others, though they lose the Going Merry in the process. With the money he had stolen, Franky builds the crew a new ship, the Thousand Sunny. Luffy goads Franky into joining his crew as his shipwright, and he accepts Usopp back into his crew after Usopp apologizes.

The crew then meets Brook, a skeleton musician who Luffy asks to join his crew. After that they travel to Sabaody Archipelago, where Luffy and his crew are completely overpowered and sent flying to opposite ends of the world. Luffy learns that his brother, Portgas D. Ace, is slated for execution at Marineford, the Marine headquarters. Ace's father is revealed to be Gol D. Roger. Ace's crew, and the Marines engage in a massive war, which Luffy and his allies eventually join. Luffy frees Ace, but Marine Admiral Akainu lands a fatal blow, causing Ace to die in Luffy's arms. Jinbe, a fishman Luffy befriended, manages to escape with the comatose Luffy in tow. Luffy awakens two weeks after the war's conclusion and uses a secret message in the newspaper to instruct them to train for two years.

Part 2 - The Final Sea

The New World Saga

Two years later, the crew reconvene at Sabaody Archipelago and set sail underwater to Fishman Island. When they arrive, they are caught up in an attempted coup by the fishman Hody Jones, though the Straw Hats defeat Hody and his crew. They then return to the surface on the other side of the Red Line, entering the second half of the Grand Line known as the "New World". They arrive at the island Punk Hazard, where they defeat and capture the mad scientist Caesar Clown, who was working for the warlord Donquixote Doflamingo. The Straw Hats, Caesar and Trafalgar Law travel to Doflamingo's home, Dressrosa, where a massive country-wide battle takes place that concludes with Luffy and his crew defeating Doflamingo's forces.

Sanji is captured by the pirate emperor Big Mom to be married to her daughter, so the Straw Hats travel to her territory to retrieve him. The crew then travels to Wano Country, where the emperor Kaido rules over the land.

Buh6173, if you want to create this in your sandbox then we can feed back on that or edit it up further. Keep in mind that the lists of One Piece chapters also have fairly detailed plot summaries for each volume. Given there are like 95+ volumes you may consider one sentence per 2-3 volumes. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:52, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Featured status

Hello there. Just wanted to ask nicely if it could be possible to consider this article a featured article with a yellow star since this is the best-selling manga and the best-selling comic by a single author in history. Please reply asap. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.235.147.210 (talk) 21:06, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

That is not the criteria to become a featured article. Please read WP:FACR to learn about what makes an article a potential Featured Article. 331dot (talk) 21:09, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Series plot and v1 cover

I request for the first volume cover and an overall plot to be added to this Wikipedia article. If not, explain why. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.235.147.210 (talk) 13:58, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Please review the discussions above. 331dot (talk) 14:17, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Series plot and v1 cover

Hello there. I just wanted to know if you are willing to put the first volume cover as profile picture and to add a plot to the series. Yeah, I'm the usual guy who used to ask for this, but now I need confirmation about this. Please don't block me! I'm just asking nicely if this could be done. Please reply asap. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Usercontributor4559438 (talk • contribs) 16:17, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Considering how many story arcs this series has, it would make the organization too ridiculously long failing into WP:Fancruft.Tintor2 (talk) 16:23, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

If you look at List of One Piece chapters, you will see volume 1 there.

Plot section is being taken into consideration, but if you're coming from Wikia, the plot has to be written for both fans and first-time readers. First time readers that may not be familiar with the pacing of manga/anime. It still has to be written in a professional way. I haven't heard from the last person who wanted to do this if they made a sandbox or not, but it looks like they gave up.

I actually wanted to bring up an issue. I think the reason why there's so much demand for a more detailed plot is because there is a setting section that is too detailed. I noticed the Setting section is filled with a lot of terms and using kanji/romanji. It might not be useful to have all these terms be thrown into the prose. I recommend putting them under footnotes and maybe simplify some things. We don't need to go into detail for most of these points in the setting, just the ones that make the plot make sense.Blue Pumpkin Pie ^{Chat Contribs} 16:52, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, the setting is also way too detailed. It's weird explaining Haki after the plot. Haki is pretty much nen, chakra, ki, etc and so it should be mentioned whenever it's only relevant for the plot like supernatural powers from Hamatora, Scryed, Bungo Stray Dogs, etc.Tintor2 (talk) 16:58, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

So should we remove Haki all-together? I think Devil fruit can be summarized even more. Does anyone mind if i convert all the nihongo templates into Nihongo foot templates?Blue Pumpkin Pie ^{Chat Contribs} 17:29, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

I wouldn’t mind having the Haki, Setting or Devil Fruit sections removed. 1989 (talk) 17:48, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

I want to re-iterate that i am no expert when it comes to One Piece. I'm just reviewing this as first-time reader.Blue Pumpkin Pie ^{Chat Contribs} 17:53, 19 March 2020 (UTC)

I was trying to figure out the snails section, but I think that paragraph and dials can be removed since they're not really a Geography thing. Devil fruits can be shortened to just its real basics such as: grants certain super powers or ability to transform into certain creatures, but user will be unable to swim and the consumer can't eat more than one kind or they'll die. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 02:52, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2020

All names should be changed to the original Japanese naming order, every name. Mangaka and character names. The Japanese foreign ministry has requested that all Japanese names should revert to their original cultural naming conventions such as Family/First naming order.

I find that it is high time we gave the Japanese the same respect we give to the Koreans and Chinese, who we still keep in Family/First naming order.

In fact, I find it highly racist to keep subjecting Japanese media to the "American" standards and naming conventions, such as changing the names to the "American" names or reversing the naming order. It's cultural ruination.

I'd also argue that real fans of Japanese media are fully aware of these cultural differences and would not be confused if we were to revert everything back to its original form.

User avatar level 1 johnnycleanpickles just now

Where can I go about changing Japanese naming order?

For decades it's been bothering me that only for Japanese articles and in media that we *change* the naming order for the americans. That we submit to their will of First name / Last Name

But this 'standard' is not enforced for Korean and Chinese names, who get to keep their Family Name / First name order on articles and in the media.

The Japanese foreign ministry has asked for all foreign sources to keep it Family / First, but it seems wikipedia is still keeping with this western racist americanizing.

So where can I go to open a discussion with the head editors of wikipedia to enact this change. Too long has the Japanese need to be subjected to Americanization and i think we should respect the CULTURE to keep their names in the order it should be.

We give the same respect to the Chinese and Koreans, so why not the Japanese.

Sources https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2019/05/22/national/politics-diplomacy/foreign-minister-taro-kono-ask-media-switch-order-japanese-names/

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190521/p2a/00m/0na/016000c https://mainichi.jp/articles/20190521/k00/00m/040/105000c https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-48364567

https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20190522/p2a/00m/0na/002000c http://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/AJ201909060057.html

https://english.kyodonews.net/news/2019/05/624f6d022f34-foreign-minister-to-ask-media-to-switch-order-of-japanese-names.html NameChangerJapan (talk) 05:57, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

We follow WP:COMMONNAME, most of the people mentioned here already have an established common name in English language sources. See Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Japan-related articles. – Thjarkur (talk) 09:28, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

First volume cover and plot

Hi. Sorry for the insistence, but it's really necessary for consistency that this Wikipedia article to have the first volume cover as profile picture and a plot of the series. If you still are negated to do so, please explain shortly the reason below me. Otherwise, I'd have to do a long search in order to find the reason archived somewhere, which I won't do so. Please reply to me as soon as possible. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.235.147.210 (talk • contribs) 22:49, 19 September 2020‎ (UTC)

No, it's not. This doesn't need to be brought up every few months or sooner. See WP:DEADHORSE. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 02:24, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

If you want to see the start of the Vol. 1 cover change go to Talk:One Piece/Archive 5 AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 02:53, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Editing One Piece's reception

Replace "Praise" with "Critical Acclaim". One Piece deserves to be considered a heavily acclaimed title. Saying that it is only praised does not give the series any justice. Chocomilk9764 (talk) 09:58, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

I thought that was more a common term in gaming. Still, the article is kinda lacking critical response.Tintor2 (talk) 15:51, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

It is a term used pretty often in gaming, but I was going through the edit history and I think a bot had replaced the words. Praise just doesn't polite enough to a series that has been acclaimed for over 2 decades now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chocomilk9764 (talk • contribs) 23:55, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 04:02, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Name of the series in the lead

Per suggestion of Sjones23. The current lead mentions just "One Piece" as the title of the series, but wouldn't it be more appropriate to also mention "One Piece (Japanese: ワンピース, Hepburn: Wan Pīsu)" or "One Piece (Japanese: ONE PIECE（ワンピース）)", since on the cover of every volume the series the title is written in both latin characters and kanji? A similar case would be Naruto, and in this situation the leads states "Naruto (Japanese: NARUTO（ナルト）)". --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 17:15, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

If Japan has the same name in English but with katakana, then it's best to just put the Katakana instead of redundantly using the English name with the katakana. This is the same for all other anime and manga that use english alphabet.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 17:29, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I don't see the point in adding the series' title with Japanese characters if it is not officially written in that way in Japan. Even the original publisher, Shueisha, just uses its title written in Latin. News websites like Natalie also uses that title. Also, we're on the English Wikipedia. I think the Japanese title would be helpful for Japanese people to know how the title is spelled and in Japanese Wikipedia does make sense to list it, but here is needless. Regarding the Naruto case, Shueisha uses the title "NARUTO―ナルト― " and so does websites like Natalie, so I'd say that maybe for just that single reason it does make sense that its Japanese title is also listed in lead. - Xexerss (talk) 18:33, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Xexerss: In the official logo visible on the volume covers it's officially written "ONE PIECE" with a smaller "ワンピース" above it. --Mazewaxie (talk • contribs) 20:09, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

@Mazewaxie: Yes, it includes the Japanese spelling, same case as other series originally written in Latin like Bleach, D.Gray-man or Major, but unlike other series with English titles that in Japanese are officially (and usually) written with Japanese characters, like Black Clover (ブラッククローバー, Burakku Kurōbā) or Chainsaw Man (チェンソーマン, Chensō Man), I personally don't see a reason to include them if they're not used by most media in Japan. Also, for example, with the case of Black Clover or Chainsaw Man, I think that to include the Japanese titles is helpful for research and to find sources from Japanese websites, but with series like One Piece, which you only need to search about it on Japanese websites, literally writing "One Piece", I don't really see something meaningful about the inclusion of its Japanese spelling, not in an English article at least. - Xexerss (talk) 00:02, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

@Xexerss: IMHO, the Japanese text is only to show how the Japanese spell it out or pronounce it using their alphabet. In Video games wikiproject the Japanese are moved as a footnote and still don't use the redundant English letters. Personally, I think WP:ANIME should do the same. In Japan, it's custom to put the katakana or Hiragana above kanji/roman letters depending on what it is for. But in English, we don't have that same system. So it makes sense to spell it "One Piece (ワンピース)" instead of ONE PIECE（ワンピース）, they're both expressing the same information just differently.Blue Pumpkin Pie (talk) 19:32, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

References

There was some discussion on this matter a few months ago at project talk: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga/Archive 74 § Lead sections for Latin titles. I agree with User:Opencooper's suggestion that the katakana for a Latin-script title exists only for Japanese readers (in the same way that romaji for Japanese-script titles exist only for English readers); I would write the lead here as One Piece (stylized in all caps) is a.... — Goszei (talk) 08:25, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

Request

Hi there. I'm not here to request anything anymore. I just want if someone could please take the time to post below me all of the reasons as to why there won't be first volume cover as profile picture and an overall plot covering the entire story, so that the explanations are more in handy on the main talk page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.195.107.16 (talk • contribs) 14:02, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Please note that 190.195.107.16 has been blocked for sockpuppetry. If you want the full history of this discussion you can see the Archives. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 20:57, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Change requested

The manga One Piece was published the first time in 19 july 1997, not 22 july. in 1997 the chapter was released on a Tuesday, so the first chapter of OP was supposed to come out on July 22, but that time, due to an event, the chapter was brought forward to July 19. Many people / pages just go to see what day it was on Tuesday 97 and then think it came out on the 22nd, but it's actually the 19th. Correct the mistake, because it is a big DISINFORMATION

@Mery5810: There are at least three sources stating that the series began on July 22; Anime News Network[1]; Natalie [2] and the own official One Piece website [3]. So where are your reliable sources stating that it began on July 19? - Xexerss (talk) 15:07, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

@Mery5810: Uhmm, so on another note, there are also sources stating that it began on July 19[4][5][6][7] Maybe we should leave a note stating that its anniversary is celebrated on July 22 and it actually began on July 19? - Xexerss (talk) 15:24, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 August 2021

One of the best animes in the world Bloodcraver (talk) 03:57, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2021

In the first sentence of the Zoan Devil fruits subheading "...like how Tony Tony Chopper can transform into a human-reindeer hyvrid." Please fix the spelling of hybrid. Phosforosa (talk) 00:27, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

 Done. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (talk) 00:58, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request (December 9, 2021)

Under the Anime series section, please add Fair use disputes (see second paragraph in the [Animation article])

Bloodybullfrog (talk) 18:32, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

What do Dragon Ball fanmade videos have to do with One Piece? It kinda makes sense that Toei has this comment instead since it didn't influence any official release.Tintor2 (talk) 20:08, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Influences?

Given that the main character's name is (partially) "Monkey" and that he aims to be King (of the pirates), is there any documentation that says "One Piece" was influenced by the "Journey To The West" and its tale of the Monkey King? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.202.33.17 (talk) 06:04, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2022

Remove the line from the beginning "One Piece is also know as Goat (Greatest of all time) Piece because of the storyline, the character development, the fights, foreshadowing, and especially because of the loyal and awesome fan base." Or request a source citation. Knux50 (talk) 17:36, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for noticing this. Link20XX (talk) 17:40, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2022

In devil fruit section : since the chapter 1044, we know now, the luffy s elasticity comes from the devil fruit : Hito no Mi Model Nika. Its could be better to replace this information in the Zoan section.

--> Paramecia[Jp 20] is a category of fruits that gives the user various superhuman abilities, such as Luffy's elasticity, Nico Robin's appendage generation or Brook's self-revival. Labrickk (talk) 09:51, 8 April 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. PianoDan (talk) 20:21, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Fixing the date of the start of the series

Hello everyone! Just to know, the start of the series is July 19, 1997 (not July 22) Why is that date either way? Could someone please change it correctly? Please reply! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.231.158.189 (talk) 22:15, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Is there a valid source you have backing up this claim? P.greenlink (talk) 23:09, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

As you can see in the infobox of this link, the real date is July 19, 1997: [[8]] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.31.233.122 (talk) 16:40, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Regardless of the veracity of what you're claiming, you'll need a better source than a Wiki citing a self-published website. - Xexerss (talk) 17:07, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Alright, it seems that no one listened to me since some time has passed and no one changed this info. I "revive" this topic then. Is there any mod out there who can make this change to the article, since its 100% true? Please reply! Thanks!

And I see you completely ignored what Xexerss said about how this site works.P.greenlink (talk) 17:13, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Breath of Fire and One Piece connection

Hello everyone again! There's something I've noticed about One Piece about it having a huge connection to a SNES video game called Breath of Fire. The premise is the same, a main characters sets out into the world having adventures and defeating enemies while recruiting people for himself. And very curiously, these characters that he recruits are very similar to the ones Luffy does. Check them for yourselves: https://www.google.com/search?q=breath+of+fire+characters&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiZ9_TljJ73AhXnNbkGHQANAYcQ2-cCegQIABAA&oq=breath+of+fire+characters&gs_lcp=CgNpbWcQAzIFCAAQgAQyBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB4yBggAEAgQHjIGCAAQCBAeMgYIABAIEB46BwgjEO8DECc6BAgAEENQ6gRY-w5g6Q9oAHAAeACAAbACiAGMD5IBBzIuMy40LjGYAQCgAQGqAQtnd3Mtd2l6LWltZ8ABAQ&sclient=img&ei=5JpdYpn1Lufr5OUPgJqEuAg#imgrc=cio8Z61VUGSyfM

Maybe Oda knew about this video game when creating the series? What do you think?

Could someone please add this curious fact to the article? Please reply! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.31.233.122 (talk) 17:09, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Hello! Not typically how Wikipedia standards of evidence go (see: WP:OR). A respected 3rd party source outlining the similarities would be needed. If it's a real thing, it should be online somewhere. And if it's not online somewhere, you can of course be the one to reveal it! But demonstrating something like this needs to be done outside Wikipedia first, and should reach a reasonably notoriety (see: WP:DUE). Wikipedia isn't really the place to put forth new ideas. It's an encyclopedia of existing ideas. Hope that helps. --Crawdaunt (talk) 19:20, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

The same goes for this request, could some mod rethink about this and add it up? Please reply! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.90.252.167 (talk) 15:33, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

Even if it were meant to be true, it would come off as WP:Trivia.Tintor2 (talk) 18:45, 13 May 2022 (UTC)

First volume cover and plot

Hello. I ask for someone to pin on this talk thread the main reasons as to why there can't be a first volume cover and an overall plot of the series, so that everyone can see them. Please reply! Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.12.180.125 (talk) 17:37, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

I'd recommend checking the archives here. It's the same with Reborn! as the first volume does not show the main character. We use images that describe the series better.Tintor2 (talk) 17:55, 25 June 2022 (UTC)

Sentence Correction: 'Whom' should be 'who'

In the first sentence in the "Premise" section, the word "whom" should be "who". This is so because "who" is the subject of the verb "sets off", *not* ... the object of a preposition (in which case "whom" *would* be appropriate).

This is the sentence I'm referring to, copied as-is from the current text, with the incorrect 'whom' in place: "The series focuses on Monkey D. Luffy, a young man made of rubber, whom, inspired by his childhood idol, the powerful pirate Red-Haired Shanks, sets off on a journey from the East Blue Sea to find the mythical treasure, the One Piece, and proclaim himself the King of the Pirates."

I would make the correction myself, but I do not have edit rights on this page. --96.241.71.125 (talk) 00:23, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

 Done, I guess. Also cleaned up the original request as it was garbled. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 03:31, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Ace Novel

Insert Information on this new novel that's announced , here some articles on it https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-04-20/new-one-piece-magazine-to-serialize-novel-about-ace/.115045 https://comicbook.com/anime/2017/02/12/one-piece-ace-spin-off-novels-author-reportedly-revealed/ https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/02/05-1/durarara-author-to-write-one-piece-ace-novel — Preceding unsigned comment added by RajaRajaCholan (talk • contribs) 17:11, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Chapters and volumes updating

Hello there. Could someone please make sure to update the number of chapters and volumes to the latest as of today? If I'm correct, it's 1018 chapters and 99 volumes as of today. Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.191.235.220 (talk) 17:51, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done. Probably an old request as it's currently at 102 volumes published as of April 2022. AngusW🐶🐶F (bark • sniff) 03:35, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Recent edits by user 1989 deleting substantial total content

User @1989: recently deleted over 13,000 characters total from the article in the Premise section, which included quite a lot of info on the nature of the world and various characters/traits. Some of the content featured tags like "used by other pages, don't delete." I'm not saying this was the wrong decision, particularly as @1989 is a page reviewer. But I think a proper explanation is needed for deleting 13,000 characters from a cultural cornerstone article. In their view, could the deleted info be moved to a different/new section, possibly under a different main heading? Crawdaunt (talk) 04:43, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Recently an "overly detailed" tag was added in the Setting section for being WP:TMI and WP:FAN and I agreed with that and removed the material. Also, that section was discussed briefly before, however nothing was done at that time until now. 1989 (talk) 07:50, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the response. WP:FAN certainly describes the prior content pretty well. As there was quite a lot of well-formatted, detailed content, I'll reflect on whether another wiki page could be more appropriate for that level of detail to maybe preserve the work of other editors. Was just curious on logic, as it's not every day one sees 13k characters deleted. I agree with the reasoning though. Thanks for clarification! - Crawdaunt (talk) 11:04, 9 September 2022 (UTC)

This is my comment to @Crawdaunt: and @1989:. Though the Devil Fruit information could have at least been spared to let visitors to the page know how they work and their different types. Either that section should be restored or it's page should be restored with the right sources. I'm just making a suggestion here. --Rtkat3 (talk) 19:39, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

@Rtkat3: Not sure how re-adding trivial information helps the Synopsis section in any way. If viewers want to know how certain powers work, they can go somewhere else like Wikia for that information. Please read WP:TMI and WP:FAN. 1989 (talk) 01:22, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

FYI, a separate page wouldn't work either. See this. 1989 (talk) 01:41, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

We should at least mention something brief about the Devil Fruit on the main page somewhere. What does everyone else say? --Rtkat3 (talk) 18:09, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

@1989 : forgot about this and just looked at main page again to take a stock of all that was cut. I will say I agree with @Rtkat3, I don't think Devil Fruits in One Piece are trivial information.

To put this into perspective, imagine an article on Superman that hardly mentions, and never explains, what Krypton/Kryptonite is? Or an article on Lord of the Rings that never explains that The One Ring corrupts its owner.

Some information on Devil Fruits, what they are, and how they are central to the conceit of One Piece, ought to be re-introduced somehow. My 2 cents.

-- Crawdaunt (talk) 07:11, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

I meant the section itself, not the fruit, being trivial. I made a brief mention in the Plot section of the fruit and what it could do. It should be fine there without needing to create a whole section on it, per my previous points. 1989 (talk) 11:33, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

@1989 and @Rtkat3: I've made a set of edits that hopefully improve the page and cut down on WP:FAN-type content. This re-introduced Devil's Fruits as a significant and primary element of the world setting. @Rtkat3 I know you just made edits to the Setting, but I might advise avoiding name-dropping characters (like Vegapunk), who play background roles. This is the sort of content that @1989 was trying to remove for WP:FAN reasons. My edits could probably stand to be cleaned up for grammar/referencing.

I think some content that was cut in the large overhaul can be moved to Concept and Creation. Specifically, there was a line about Oda's inspiration for Devil Fruit powers. IIRC, he mentioned he took inspiration from a human's internal sins and desires as the motivation (there was a referenced line in the previous version). One could perhaps add a very brief, concise sentence or two that also describes the fruit types, perhaps using the words "Paramecia, Zoan, Logia" or perhaps not... Key is to avoid a fan's telling of the series, while also providing important details for the world setting and design.

Will look at editing Concept and Creation later. Wanted to stop there though and let folks consider my edits and give feedback before doing more.

Cheers -- Crawdaunt (talk) 07:38, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Ah, just realized this line I was thinking of re: human desires etc... is the 1st line of the "Development" section. Still... might fit better in "Concept and Creation." In general, some edits to the Production section could improve flow and logical order of information. -- Crawdaunt (talk) 07:52, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

Merchandise section

Can the be Merch section be removed? It's mostly User:Maestro2016 work. Aside from $1 billion figure from 4kids its hard to verify the info without recalcuating everything. (And I don't know Japanese to do it) Timur9008 (talk) 15:25, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

One piece episode Zoro

2400:1A00:B030:A0E8:AF52:B2AC:811A:29B0 (talk) 03:26, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

One Piece novel A/Ace's Story

The Light novels section omits the most important one of them all. One Piece novel A´s exact canon status isn´t know but we know for a fact that Oda helped to break the story. Both volumes managed to reach the US and some European markets while getting an internationally published manga adaptation on top of that. A short mention and explanation seems in order as it is the only one with an English translation. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/manga.php?id=28571 77.64.146.181 (talk) 21:44, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

"supernormal" needs correcting

End of the first paragraph under "Setting" the word "supernatural" is misspelled. 74.77.118.11 (talk) 14:49, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

516,566,000 million

Under Sales, end of first paragraph: "516,566,000" without "million" or rather "over 500 million" Dana.odd (talk) 14:19, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done Xexerss (talk) 15:28, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

A new source for the Conclusion section

This September 2023 Netflix editorial about the manga and the live action shows claims before the lenghty Oda interview starts that He plans to personally close it out by 2025. 77.64.147.13 (talk) 22:36, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Eiichiro Oda 's Support for convicted child porn authors

This is being edited out despite multiple reliable sources from CBR animenewsnetwork animefeminist linked.

This is noteworthy and deserves its own section. LoreVogel1995 (talk) 23:11, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

This is just WP:SENSATIONAL, nothing worth mentioning in the article, so I suggest you to stop adding that stuff. Xexerss (talk) 23:26, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

On top of that, at WP:ANIME/RS#Situational, it says that [CBR] should not be used for controversial statements related to living persons and the ANN article you provided does not support your claim that Oda supported Watsuki, just that they did an interview together. Finally, the Anime Feminist source (which already has a warning on the anime RS page about due weight) just says that Oda and Shimabukuro are friends, but not that he supports his actions. Link20XX (talk) 23:48, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Added multiple sources of his support. He called Watsuki an amazing friend and a comrade.

For Toriko, Shima explictly said he supported him on 2002 and threw a party for him in 2016.

It is not :SENSATIONAL nor Situational, LoreVogel1995 (talk) 23:26, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Sources are posted on eiichiro oda author page LoreVogel1995 (talk) 23:26, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

@LoreVogel1995: Please, just stop it. Apart from some tweets and comments on some sites, there's no real controversy. Oda did not receive any kind of punishment for supporting those two authors (and he shouldn't anyway). You're trying to make a situation look much more serious than it really is. Xexerss (talk) 04:32, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

I agree with the others here. Oda has not remotely committed any crimes or made any statements about supporting either child pornography or prostitution as far as I am aware.

In fact, Oda has relentlessly worked extremely hard to propagate ideals of freedom, equality, and prosperity for everybody through this work, to be kind and tolerant to others regardless of ethnicity, sexuality, gender, or nationality, and to strongly oppose all forms of tyranny, slavery, bigotry, inequality, and injustice, and he has made large financial donations to charity projects.

As such, why would you want to ruin almost 30 years of Oda's extremely hard work and dedication, and one of the most internationally prominent fictional stories of all time in terms of promoting genuinely positive and constructive values, merely for the sake of insubstatial poisonous slander accusations from clickbait gossip media? David A (talk) 11:09, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

• This is clearly yellow journalism. It has no merit to be added on Wikipedia. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:B4E1:B5A5:2386:8D4D (talk) 10:09, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Article in 12 languages not connected to this article.

As you know, this One Piece article links to the same article in other languages like Thai and Japanese, but there is another set of One Piece articles that are connected to each other, but not to here, including the ones in Hebrew and Simple English. I’m sure the articles should be linked, but I don’t know how to do it. Anyone can do it or oppose this? Win090949 (talk) 04:46, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

This is caused by Wikidata. This article is linked to item Q28667972, which is for the manga specifically, where those articles are linked to item Q673, which is for the media franchise. Link20XX (talk) 05:03, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

"Dub Piece" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Dub Piece has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 15 § Dub Piece until a consensus is reached. Link20XX (talk) 22:06, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Rightfully so, it's been deleted. Again, it was a product of its time. Back in the day, there was a page for the English adaptations of One Piece, and again, with how infamous 4Kids' dub was, the name "Dub Piece" spawned from that. But 4Kids hasn't been around for awhile a lot of modern One Piece fans probably weren't even into it, assuming they were even born, during the 4Kids era, so there's no need for it to exist anymore. Matty-chan (talk) Matty-chan (talk) 05:09, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

BRD for paragraph removed from premise section

@1989, I disagree with this revert. The first paragraph of the premise section only captures the character list and the theme of the first few episodes. This series has been running for more than 25 years, and the paragraph I added quickly summarizes recurring plot themes. It's not like I added an episode-by-episode detailed summary, or even a basic summary of the plot arcs. It's a few sentences to explain how the title fits into the story. The void century 18:07, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

There is no need for more information about the One Piece treasure. That is trivial to what's the Premise section is supposed to be, which is giving a summary of the story and the characters. 1989 (talk) 18:42, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

I disagree. How can we arrive at a consensus edit that satisfies both of our concerns? The void century 18:49, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean. There is already information about the One Piece treasure in the section. How does adding more information about it help the reader understand the summary? It doesn't, which is why it was removed per WP:FAN. 1989 (talk) 18:59, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

The only information is that the One Piece is a treasure. The One Piece is both the title and a major plot element, which merits an explanation beyond "it's a treasure". The void century 19:08, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Giving details about how to find the One Piece treasure does not give "an explanation". It's trivial information that is irrelevant to helping the reader. 1989 (talk) 19:14, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm open to alternatives. What type of explanation do you think would be more relevant to the reader? The void century 19:18, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

There is already an explanation in the section, and adding trivial information about it does not help the reader at all. 1989 (talk) 19:47, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

It seems we're at an impasse then. I disagree with leaving the section as is. As is laid out in WP:DISCUSSCONSENSUS, The result might be an agreement that may not satisfy everyone completely, but indicates the overall concurrence of the group. What would be a result that would not satisfy you completely, but might also partly satisfy my concerns? The void century 20:01, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

The only sensible action is to restore your edit. The deletion was baseless and the reason given was completely bogus. 2600:8802:571B:E00:DC74:2EE:7C40:1EC4 (talk) 02:13, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

why it was removed per WP:FAN

"Some users consider this a pejorative term and see it as insulting to well-meaning contributors. They might likewise consider use of the term in forums such as articles for deletion inappropriate, but it is, nevertheless, in common use there. However, this usage is not a substitute for a well-reasoned argument based on existing Wikipedia policies." 2600:8802:571B:E00:DC74:2EE:7C40:1EC4 (talk) 02:15, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Read my comments entirely before cherry picking quotes and actually give a reason why the paragraph helps the reader. That's what WP:FAN is based of. You have yet to answer and now you're editing from an IP address after your "enforced wikibreak". Use the account you have. 1989 (talk) 14:58, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

That wasn't me. Please strike the accusation The void century 01:54, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

 Done 1989 (talk) 14:41, 4 January 2024 (UTC)

• This is fancruft. It's suited for a fandom page, not here. 2600:6C44:117F:95BE:4131:6D2:B5F5:1E27 (talk) 12:20, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

Possible WP:NOR

"As of December 2023, the manga had an estimated 523.2 million copies in circulation worldwide." (Reception > Sales > paragraph 1)

This number is computed using the August 2022 circulation reported by the publisher (516.566 million), adding the Oricon-reported sales data for the four volumes released in 2023, and using that as a lower bound for the possible circulation total. Setting aside the question of accuracy (if you account for all comparable data, the true circulation under the same metrics as the August 2022 figure as of the end of 2023 is almost certainly somewhere between 530 million and 535 million), this seems like a WP:NOR violation to me, though since I'm not too familiar with the Wikipedia community norms here I thought I should bring it up. 2601:CB:8200:903:D838:E673:4764:946A (talk) 02:21, 12 January 2024 (UTC)

Genre

Per WP:STICKTOSOURCE, we should stick to the source and not go beyond what it is saying. In this case, we don't hybridize genres as that would not be what the current source states. Andrzejbanas (talk) 01:39, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

I don't agree with being strict about this. I would understand it if it was a combination with two different sources, one calling it sci-fi and the other fantasy, but in this case it's the same source that includes both genres, and it seemed reasonable to combine them as a single genre for the sake of conciseness, but nevermind. I also noticed that the source added the "comedy" tag recently, I think it should also be included, but MOS:A&M suggests to not include more than three genres. Any suggestion? Xexerss (talk) 01:54, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Honestly, I feel like we should get third-party genres for genres. Genre is subjective and I feel citing the publisher is more marketing than any sort of critical interpretation. What I would do is go through reviews and see how the genre was actually applied and then use the most common ones found. That's more work, but probably the least biased. Andrzejbanas (talk) 02:00, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Infobox image

Currently, the infobox uses the cover of the 61st takōbon volume cover to represent the manga, but with how most manga articles here use the first takōbon volume cover in their respective series, shouldn't the same be done here instead of Volume 61's cover? Inkster2 (talk) 22:43, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Nowhere is stated that infobox should always include the the first volume cover; also, see WP:OTHERCONTENT. Xexerss (talk) 02:36, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

See my explanation here, where I answered a similar question from another user. Link20XX (talk) 03:25, 6 February 2024 (UTC)