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Requested move 4 December 2019[edit]

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The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time. The proposed title and OWSD-Elsevier Foundation Award have been created as redirects to the current article. Dekimasuよ! 05:48, 16 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Elsevier Foundation Award → OWSD-Elsevier Foundation Awards – The full name of this award is the OWSD-Elsevier Foundation Award, as it is given in partnership by the two organizations OWSD and the Elsevier Foundation, as seen in both their websites: https://owsd.net/awards/awards, https://elsevierfoundation.org/partnerships/diversity-in-stm/womenscientists/ Eleighjo (talk) 12:18, 4 December 2019 (UTC) —Relisting. SITH (talk) 12:59, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: What is the WP:COMMONNAME of how this topic is referred to in independent reliable sources? (All of the sources cited in the article are self-published promotional material published by Elsevier.) Also, this Elsevier page about the awards does not use the proposed name. It does not mention OWSD in the name of the awards at all. It refers only to "Elsevier Foundation award" and "The Elsevier Awards for Early-Career Women Scientists in the Developing World". Moreover, I note that the proposer of this renaming has a user page that indicates that they work for OWSD, so there appears to be a COI promotional purpose to the renaming proposal. And why does the proposal change from the singular "Award" to the plural "Awards"? Please see WP:SINGULAR. Singular titles are generally preferred on Wikipedia. —BarrelProof (talk) 13:41, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Confusion over the starting date of the award program[edit]

The Elsevier page about the award says it was "launched in 2012". But there is also a press release that describes awards given in 2011, which casts serious doubt on the 2012 launch date. Moreover, the 2011 press release contains a quote that says "Once again, the standard of the winners selected for the OWSD Awards for Young Women Scientists from the Developing World has been outstanding." The use of "once again" seems to indicate that 2011 was not the first time the awards were given either! The 2011 press release also says "The OWSD Awards for Young Women Scientists from the Developing World were expanded" that year, which also indicates that they existed before 2011. At this Elsevier page about the award, the list of awardees starts only in 2013 (and, strangely, the 2014 recipients are not listed even though it is clear from another page on their site that there were awards in 2014).

My current understanding that the awards started as an OWSD program sponsored by the Elsevier Foundation (perhaps also with TWAS) in 2010 (per this), and then in 2012/2013 there was a transition in the award program. Elsevier seems to be downplaying the role of OWSD and TWAS by referring to the award only as the "Elsevier Foundation award" or "The Elsevier Awards for Early-Career Women Scientists in the Developing World" in at least some places, although they continue to list OWSD and TWAS as "award partners". The list of grantees on the Elsevier website starts in 2013, and I think that is because they took over the primary role in the program sometime in 2012 (the date they refer to as the "launch" date), and the first awards to be granted after that happened were in 2013.

—BarrelProof (talk) 14:00, 5 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]