Talk:ONE Championship

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Article title[edit]

The article title should have One written in sentence case and not all caps, and the name should appear this way throughout the article. We do not write trademarks that are words (as opposed to acronyms or initialisms) in all capitals, even if the trademark holder does. Please see MOS:TM and MOS:CAPS. Stifle (talk) 09:54, 14 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Stifle: Your article move has been reverted. I suggest to file a WP:RM request if you want to further pursue the above opinion. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 18:31, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This has already been through WP:RM but nobody did me the courtesy of notifying me of it so I could contest it. Stifle (talk) 08:16, 28 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
If I recall correctly, that was just WP:RMTR as a request for a speedy revert of an undiscussed move – a purely procedural matter – not a full RM discussion on the merits of the question. Please feel free to submit an ordinary WP:RM request. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 00:02, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 17 April 2023[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. (non-admin closure) EggRoll97 (talk) 03:21, 8 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

ONE Championship → One Championship – Per previoius discussion on talk page, the "ONE" is a word, not an acronym, so should not be all-caps, per MOS:TM and MOS:CAPS. Dicklyon (talk) 23:53, 17 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. – MaterialWorks 22:56, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support it's not an acronym. In ictu oculi (talk) 07:27, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Per MOS:TMRULES: "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization practices, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official", as long as this is a style already in widespread use." That last bit is key: virtually all reliable secondary sources[1] use "ONE Championship"[1] - I'm not seeing any evidence of "One Championship" being in widespread use. Per WP:MOSTM: "Do not invent new styles that are not used by independent reliable sources." 162 etc. (talk) 15:54, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose: I don't think the capital "ONE" should've been used for the company purposed. VernardoLau (talk) 09:16, 24 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Sherdog is the only notable exception I see
I'll note that these cited sources are quite old. More recent articles from MMA Mania[2] and MMA Fighting[3] indeed use "ONE". See also Bloody Elbow[4], MMA Junkie [5], Sportskeeda[6]... 162 etc. (talk) 21:50, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Bloomberg article is only one year old, one of the Nikkei Asia articles is only 7 months old, and one of the Sherdog articles is only 3 months old. When sources are mixed, Wikipedia avoids all-caps in such cases. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 01:58, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: ONE Championship is the company name and most people refer to the organization as ONE and not "One Championship" Marty2Hotty (talk) 16:28, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: This RM was originally closed as Not moved. After a discussion with BarrelProof, I decided to reopen it to allow for a clearer consensus. – MaterialWorks 22:56, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisting comment: See comment above. – MaterialWorks 22:56, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Martial arts has been notified of this discussion. – MaterialWorks 22:57, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: WikiProject Mixed martial arts has been notified of this discussion. – MaterialWorks 22:57, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Regarding policy & guidelines supporting the lowercase, per the above-mentioned discussion, please see WP:TITLETM ("Items in full or partial uppercase (such as Invader ZIM) should have standard capitalization (Invader Zim)") and MOS:ALLCAPS ("Reduce text written in all capitals in trademarks – see WP:Manual of Style/Trademarks") and MOS:TM ("Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization practices, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official", as long as this is a style already in widespread use, ..." and MOS:TMRULES: "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization practices, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official", as long as this is a style already in widespread use ... avoid: TIME, KISS, ASUS, SONY Mobile") and MOS:CAPS ("Wikipedia avoids unnecessary capitalization.") —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 23:14, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose: As per MOS:TMRULES: Do not invent new styles that are not used by independent reliable sources., I guess it works both ways? Majority of WP:IRS use all-caps ONE in their news articles, so it is fairly widespread. Ticelon (talk) 07:48, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per User:162 etc. --Jayron32 12:17, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support per guidelines and sources. Not an acronym. Dicklyon (talk) 13:31, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

"Caymanian" promotion[edit]

It's pretty clear that this is a tax related move by the org in relation to their expansion/US-based IPO as evidenced by sources on and off the page.[1][2][3] Calling ONE a "Caymanian" promotion seems disingenuous considering no fights will likely ever happen in the Cayman Islands and their headquarters remains in Singapore. I'd rather not comment on any of the financial relationships that have appeared in relation to this, however, I think it would make more sense to call them a multinational promotion considering the American & Middle Eastern expansion (one completed fight in the USA, MoU in Qatar). There is also the option to call them a Singaporean promotion legally domiciled in the Cayman Islands, considering they continue to have the largest presence in Asia. I will be changing the language to say multinational in the mean time. 30Four (talk) 15:56, 30 October 2023 (UTC) 30Four (talk) 15:56, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see the nationality was removed entirely - this also doesn't seem right. There should be some sort of description. 30Four (talk) 16:03, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Goyder, James (2022-08-22). "ONE Championship set for IPO, switches legal operations to Cayman Islands". MMAmania.com. Retrieved 2023-10-02.
  2. ^ "SG's ONE Championship re-domiciles to the Cayman Islands". DealStreetAsia. Retrieved 2023-10-02.
  3. ^ "ONE Championship: parent company Group One eyeing US IPO, sources say, as it looks to expand beyond Asia". South China Morning Post. 16 August 2023.
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