Talk:North American FJ-1 Fury

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Survivor(s)[edit]

I'm a volunteer at Yanks Air Museum in Chino, California. They have been finishing up work on a static restoration of an FJ-1 Fury. It's BuNo 120349. The aircraft is already on display while the restoration work is being finished (Not much more to be done: Just the canopy and some paint touch-up). I have photographs available and will post them soon as I have them uploaded. Thank you. NealJW (talk) 00:37, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Discrepancy in production figures[edit]

Infobox says 31 units were built including prototype. "Variants" section says 3 prototypes and 30 production models were delivered, which would be a total of 33. Of course, two prototypes could have been converted to production standards and used operationally, which would not be unprecedented; however, the disposition of the prototypes is not discussed at all. Can anyone explain the discrepancy? Carguychris (talk) 17:16, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a reference for the 3+30 aircraft built, ( XFJ-1s Bu39053, 39054, 39055 and FJ-1s Bu 120342-120371). MilborneOne (talk) 17:28, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That was prompt! Thanks. Carguychris (talk) 19:32, 17 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First?[edit]

The article says in the intro paragraph that it was the first operational jet fighter in the Navy, but the McDonnell Phantom first flew the year before and was introduced in service a month before the Fury. Can anyone cite a reference for the Fury being named "first"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9000:C006:63EE:D557:3ED0:F0C8:74D4 (talk) 16:40, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The FJ-1 was the first USN jet to serve at sea under fully operational conditions; initial FH-1 operations were conducted with the carrier stationary in harbor. I've rewritten the intro to make this more clear, and also wound up rewriting a good deal of the rest of the article, adding more citations, and making some corrections. Carguychris (talk) 22:49, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

FJ-1 "similar to" P-51[edit]

I haven't made much effort until recently to dig into this page, but the current wording implies an evolutionary link between the FJ-1 and P-51. The ambiguous claims that the FJ-1 wings, canopy and tail are "similar to" or "strongly resemble" those of the P-51 strike me as possibly spurious. Does anyone have a citation or more information about actual direct similarities? Many 1940s aircraft bear some superficial cosmetic or aerodynamic similarity to the P-51 (e.g., the Yak-9 or Spitfire), but this doesn't mean there's any meaningful link between them. Carguychris (talk) 22:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have at least one source for the claim, and will add it when I have time. (Ping me in a few days if I forget.) It's really not as farfetched as it might seem, especially given that they were made by the same company. This was actually fairly common in the early days of jets. The infallible British did the same thing with the Supermarine Spiteful to create the Attacker, so it can't be all that spurious. BilCat (talk) 22:43, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
See here for an interesting overlay of the P-51 and FJ. BilCat (talk) 22:52, 11 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Done. BilCat (talk) 00:13, 12 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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