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Impending Overhaul and Expansion[edit]

I have written a considerably expanded version of this article which gives an account of non-scheduled airlines as a historical phenomenon significant to the development of modern commercial aviation. As this is a major revision to an existing page and likely contains flaws, I'm inviting other editors to preview the page at User:Recensore256/Non-scheduled airlines for feedback prior to uploading. If no immediately prohibitive problems become apparent, I'll commit the edit soon in full anticipation of further changes. Thanks, Recensore256 (talk) 19:50, 29 August 2018 (UTC).[reply]

The new draft is an improvement. In reading it over mostly it needs a language clean-up to remove jargon and use more encyclopedic language. - Ahunt (talk) 20:28, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Although it really only discusses the United States it would be better as History of American Non-Scheduled Airlines. MilborneOne (talk) 08:02, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would support that idea, too. Seems like a better title for the content. - Ahunt (talk) 13:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I know, non-scheduled airlines were principally a United States phenomenon, at least in any significant capacity. The legal architecture which created them as a class distinct from charter airlines was unique to the U.S. It is probably worth digging around again to see if any sources mention non-scheduled carriers of other countries, but it's potentially misleading to create a new page under that title. Maybe an additional section for non-scheduled airlines of other nationalities would suffice? Recensore256 (talk) 19:38, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure why you think it is misleading as it describes exactly what you have written. MilborneOne (talk) 21:03, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Because that implies there is a noteworthy history of non-scheduled airlines beyond the United States; I'm not sure this is the case, given that the name 'non-scheduled airline' and their legal classification arose in the U.S. from U.S. legislation. Basically, the history of non-scheduled airlines in the United States is the history of non-scheduled airlines, so far as I'm aware. Recensore256 (talk) 02:08, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The term Non-Scheduled Airline is certainly used in easa-land and by European aviation authorities that use EASA rules. MilborneOne (talk) 15:27, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The EASA is just fifteen years old, and I say only that the term originated in the U.S., but I've found enough historical sources documenting non-scheduled carriers elsewhere to justify the separate pages. Thanks for the concern. Recensore256 (talk) 17:57, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

There certainly are airlines like that in Europe, Hi Fly for one; I should also think some of the English independents of the 1950s and 1960s would fit the category, working the lucrative long haul contracts of the British military, and other ad-hoc charters. But the term "non-scheduled airline" is one I never heard, it must indeed be US-specific. Jan olieslagers (talk) 06:30, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I miss the term ACMI in the article - or did I overlook it :) Jan olieslagers (talk) 06:30, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The new version as proposed seems all too big and detailed for describing events in just one single country, even if it is a big one Jan olieslagers (talk) 06:30, 10 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]