Talk:Nintendo Switch Online

Proposed merge with Nintendo Entertainment System (Switch)

Sources cover the Switch's "classic" emulation as a feature within Switch Online, not as an independently notable concept. Best to merge to parent section and only split out based on prose when warranted by an overabundance of content. (not watching, please {{ping}}) czar 09:03, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

It looks like a list of NES games available on the service, which could be an independent topic, as such a list would not fit in the Nintendo Switch Online article. The article would need a rename regardless. As for merging it, no opinion. I certainly don't oppose it in its current state. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 13:43, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

That's how the article is currently being used, at least. But we typically don't make lists of games available on a service, e.g., on OnLive, available in Nintendo's eShop or Xbox Live. Listing games available on a marketplace gets into indiscriminate collection of information territory. czar 15:37, 20 December 2018 (UTC)

I imagine it would depend on how many games will eventually be released on such a platform and whether any given new batch of released games is covered by reliable sources, making us able to source every entry on the list. I can imagine Nintendo's choice of ROMs to release on this platform could also be subject to a reception section. I have no idea if this list will be at all tenable in the long run, though. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 07:38, 21 December 2018 (UTC)

This is not comparable to a non-existent article of lists of all games on the Nintendo eShop, PlayStation Network Store, and Xbox Marketplace. This is comparable to the major three console makers offering a online service, and a free game incentive program. Which the other two already have articles with PlayStation's List of Instant Game Collection games (North America) as well as Xbox's List of Games with Gold games. The NES games offered are the same degree of independently notable concept as PlayStation and Xbox free games, and would be bias to treat it differently. As the Nintendo's free game offering grows, both in volume and complexity, it should have its own article. The section already needs more detail with better "note" section with what the SP (Special) Edition games, were the save files load up and how the game is different because of it. There are enough reliable sources for these elements, on top of the lists of games released each month. Territory differences is happening more and should be laid out in a way to easily understand. And the easy possibility of Nintendo offering other systems besides the NES would also need updating of a larger layout if that happens. Comparable to PlayStation's List of columns for PS3, PS4, PSP, Vita, and even Vita TV. If Nintendo continues the same rate of release, the list itself will be twice as long within 7 months. With all those factors and making it more comparable and unbiased to the other two services by PlayStation and Xbox, its important to keep all this information and even give its own article. DidYouLoseASock (talk) 17:47, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Did it launch September 18 or September 19?

All of the sources seem to say that this launched on September 18, so why does the article say that the service launched on September 19? --Jpcase (talk) 19:16, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Oh, okay - I see that it was explained in this edit. The service launched on September 18 in the US, but because of the time difference, it was September 19 in the rest of the world. Is that accurate though? Do any of the sources actually say that it launched September 19? It might be best to give both dates in this article. --Jpcase (talk) 19:19, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Nintendo is a Japanese company, and the launch time was given by U.S. outlets as being in the evening U.S. time. However, this corresponds to the morning Japan time, which makes more sense for such a launch due to this. ViperSnake151  Talk  19:58, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Are we sure that it went live worldwide simultaneously? Another possibility is that every country got it on "September 18", meaning that some countries may have gotten it before others. Do any of the sources clarify this? --Jpcase (talk) 00:53, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

Classic regions

I began to notice that starting on February 19, 2020, games originally exclusive to the US & PAL regions' service will be released in Japan and vice versa. If this happens again in the future, we'll need to find a more wieldy way of showing what game was formerly exclusive to one region and when they will be/are released on the other region's service. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seco86484 (talk • contribs) 02:32, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

False Info On The Page

Apparently, Wikipedia editors are allowing uncited info on the page on April 29th 2020. Nintendo has not announced Game Boy games for Nintendo Switch. The games under "coming soon" have not been announced either. Either have an editor cite the announcements, or delete the wrong info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8807:9940:E5D9:D557:5939:9C77:190E (talk) 09:09, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Well, People tried to undo that, but that person quickly reverted it. Someone better block whoever is trying to add in these unsourced content. MonadoBoy16 (talk) 13:24, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

The person who made these false edits is 2601:8C:800:94F0:C13A:6767:E364:9335, I reverted teh article back to the one without the unsourced content. MonadoBoy16 (talk) 13:31, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Add reception

Can somebody add in the reception to the Nintendo Switch Online service? Many gamers aren't taking kindly to it.--24.44.76.88 (talk) 16:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

I tried that, and many of us did it in the past. All that did was disrupt the neutral point of view of the article. You can check history to see what I'm talking about. Seco86484 (talk) 03:03, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Would there be a way to make this page talk about how NSO is very unpopular without it being biased? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThighFish (talk • contribs) 16:37, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

We need to have any commentary about the service come from reliable sources, we can't use forum posts/etc. for this. Unfortunately, very few of the reliable sources have discussed NSO in any critical way to include such a section. --Masem (t) 17:24, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Ive seen people add section to the critism to stuff like Mario 3d all stars and they havent been removed. just do something simalier to that. the backlash is worthy of being mentioned if you ask me.Yeial (talk) 18:38, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Criticism

I feel like there should be a section in the article dedicated to the controversy surrounding Switch online,as there is backlash agaisnt Switch online for many things,including the limited selection of games,and more importantly:the poor online connection that makes frames rates drop very low. I feel like the criticism has enough of a presence online to be worthy on being its own section on the article. any thoughts? Yeial (talk) 18:34, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

There would need to be reliable sources for those, which I have not seen. Particularly on the last part, as that really isn't a function of NSO but of the game itself (NSO doesn't provide that online functionality but the matchmaking) --Masem (t) 18:41, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Banjo-Kazooie publisher

The publisher of the Nintendo 64 version of Banjo-Kazooie is Nintendo. An IP holder is merely one of the parties that own intellectual property contained in the work and from whom permission is needed to distribute works; they are not interchangeable with the publisher, under whose name the work is made available to the public. For example, a game based on a James Bond film requires permission from the media company MGM, and if separate, the actors whose likenesses are used, to be published; this does not make MGM or any actor the publisher of the game. In other words, IP pertains to negotiations happening behind the scenes, whereas the publisher is the nominal brand. As such, it is not accurate to list Microsoft as the publisher of this version or this release of Banjo-Kazooie. Ozdarka (talk) 16:52, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

The original publisher at time of initial release is irrelevant. The publishers listed on this page are the game's current publishers, as indicated in the Nintendo Switch Online game apps. Note that Nightshade is listed as published by Piko Interactive for example, and Double Dragon by Arc System Works. Ergo, the current publisher of Banjo-Kazooie should be listed as Microsoft. -- Cyberlink420 (talk) 17:41, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

If the Switch Online release of the game is treated as a separate publication and indicated in the app as being published by Microsoft then the table can reflect that. Ozdarka (talk) 18:03, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Future of the "titles that don't support cloud saves" list

The article currently has a list of Switch games that don't support the Cloud Saves feature of NSO. While the list then was ~60 titles, that list today, according to Nintendo's help page, is 139. Because of its length, would it be better to:

a) not have the list at all,

b) keep the list, but limit its scope (first party titles + Pokemon), or

c) update the list to include the titles not currently represented?

MooseMike (talk) 17:56, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Personally? A. We're not a catalog. The section should simply note that not all games support or use it. -- ferret (talk) 18:41, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Update N64 emulation controversy to say that they have fixed?

I am surprised NO ONE has mentioned that emulation for N64 is now fixed!

I mean I know it was a big deal that it was bad when it first came out but time has passed and they updated it. Why don't we mention it? NakhlaMan (talk) 09:38, 15 March 2024 (UTC)