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October

Forgotten memory

I removed the following:

This was almost forgotten(Maybe that is true for people of other country, but Chinese will never forget this massacre, forever), but since 1980s, the Communist China has utilized this incident as a diplomacy card and to take the spotlight off from massacres by themselves.

It is POV, both the original version and the annotated one ("Maybe..."). People's memory of this event is not as easily measurable as the statements above imply. If it is, provide legitimate sources to back up the statements. --Menchi 01:10, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)

September

sources of 200K figure?

PinkBotRX, do you have a source we can cite for the 200,000 figure? -- Pde 08:10, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)

November

Death toll

The article says that Chang reached a figure of 260,000. But this page [1] says: "Ms. Chang concludes that upwards to 350,000 Chinese lives were destroyed by the Japanese." What gives? Is Kagan talking about something other than the death toll? -- Pde 00:13, 17 Nov 2003 (UTC)

-Pde, the death tolls for this vary hugely, some of the articles I quoted discuss the issue. Basically the estimates range from 20,000 all the way to 400,000. Many very well respected historians stay the number is probably in the range of 60-120,000. China's official figure is 300,000. It also depends on the area, who you include and a range of other factors...

December

Move?

[Rape of Nanking] seems to be more common: [2]. Should this be moved? --Jiang 10:54, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)