Talk:Michael Sackler-Berner

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This is a real musician actor in the public eye who has had roles in films and prime time network television. He performs and records music at a professional level with artists like Jim Keltner. Sackler-Berner has several national level licenses.

Administrators: check links before deletion. Please confirm before deletion that the page doesn't seem to be intended as the author's userpage. (THAT page is msbrecords.com and imdb.com) Consider checking Google to confirm that this is indeed a legitimate post.

To whomever is undoing edits about the relationship of MSB to the Sackler Family, let us be very clear about the fact that MSB is indeed a grandson of Arthur Sackler, considered the patriarch of the Sackler pharmaceutical dynasty, and who was indeed a co-owner of Purdue Pharma until his death. While ownership passed to descendants of two brothers of Arthur after his death, it is still true that MSB is related to the family that still owns Purdue Pharma, even if his branch of the family are no longer co-owners. Further attempts to obfuscate the connection between Arthur Sackler and Purdue Pharma will result in me alerting the Wikipedia administration. It has been noted that you edit only articles related to the Sackler Family suggesting a non-neutral point of view. Can you prove that this is not the case?

p.s. Do you not think it is better to clearly describe the actual relationship? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.90.131.125 (talk) 10:08, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Qui s'excuse, s'accuse.

Whitewashing[edit]

Regarding this attempt at whitewashing: [1] Look, I just read Empire of Pain. There is no need to go out of the way and try to distance Michael from this history. Because if you want to say "Michael's branch has nothing to do with Purdue Pharma", ok, then we would need to say something about his branch's Valium history and co-opting of the FDA. Also, it's not like the Sackler "branch" in question is immune from the Purdue Pharma created opiod epidemic."the Metropolitan Museum of Art Pledges to Reject Funding From the Sackler Family". If other institutions are sanctioning the (entire) Sackler family I don't see why Wikipedia should go out of its way to distance one of the Sackler members from the Purdue Pharma opiod epidemic. -- GreenC 16:50, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Empire of Pain actually addresses this point. The author says Arthur "created the world that allowed OxyContin to do what it did. He pioneered medical advertising and marketing of the type used by Purdue; the co-opting of the FDA; the mingling of medicine and commerce; so many of the antecedents of Purdue Pharma could be found in the life of Arthur Sackler." A pamphlet released by the heirs of Arthur said he "founded a dynasty" and "was personally responsible for much of his brothers success". The website sackler.org (family run) says Arthur "purchased the pharmaceutical company Purdue Frederick, and started all the other family businesses."[2] -- GreenC 02:35, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]