Talk:Mary, Princess Royal and Countess of Harewood/Archive 1

Archive 1

Is this correct

"After her marriage she held the title of Countess of Harewood."

Her husband held the title. She didn't. She is refered to as the Countess of Harewood, but she doesn't hold the title.Eregli bob (talk) 15:48, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes ForeverMe (talk) 23:07, 14 January 2017 (UTC)

Use of the title Countess of Harewood

A search of the London Gazette shows that after she was created Princess Royal in 1932, she used that title only and not that of Countess of Harewood (the only exception being her attendance as a peeress at the 1953 coronation). I'm amending the "titles and styles" section accordingly. Opera hat (talk) 12:22, 8 October 2011 (UTC)

Princess Royal

Clarification Needed. - She is stated to have succeeded her brother the Duke of Kent as "president of Papworth" at end of a sentence, a fact not correspondingly mentioned in her brother's biographical wiki article. Could someone properly identify the organisation, name not linked to any other article?Cloptonson (talk) 21:41, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Friendly with the Duke of Windsor?

The article states, "The Princess Royal also made history that same month of March, 1965, when she visited her brother, the Duke of Windsor (formerly King Edward VIII) at the London Clinic, where he was recovering from recent eye surgery. The Princess also met her brother's wife, the Duchess of Windsor (at that time, married to the Duke for more than 28 years), one of the Duchess' few meetings with her husband's immediate family up to that time," strongly implying that this was the first time the Princess Royal had met Wallis Simpson.

Yet, at an earlier point, the article indicates that she was a strong supporter of her eldest brother and even boycotted the wedding of Princess Elizabeth (later Queen Elizabeth II) because he had not been invited. This seems suspect, because the Duke of Windsor required all of his "supporters" to acknowledge Wallis Simpson as his wife, and to address her as "royal highness," even though she did not hold that rank. According to Alan Michie's "God Save The Queen," the Duke of Windsor was not personally barred from interacting with the family, but that he declined invitations if Mrs. Simpson was not also welcome. So, to suggest that someone could be a strong supporter of the Duke of Windsor after his abdication in 1936, but never to have met his wife until 1965, seems incorrect.John Paul Parks (talk) 14:42, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

After the abdication crisis, she and her husband went to stay with the former Edward VIII, by then created Duke of Windsor, at Enzenfeld Castle near Vienna. It is unlikely that Wallis would have been absent during this visit. Valetude (talk) 06:41, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

This is explained in the Wallis Simpson article. Simpson never lived with the Duke in Vienna, where he stayed in the first half of 1937. They reunited in mid-1937 in France after a separation of six months, so as not to prejudice her divorce proceedings. Celia Homeford (talk) 11:44, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Celia. I stand corrected. Valetude (talk) 16:01, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

Private life

Her elder son, the Earl of Harewood, however, writes about his parents' marriage in his memoirs The Tongs and the Bones and challenges these widespread rumours that the marriage was an unhappy one. He says that "they got on well together and had a lot of friends and interests in common".

This does not dispel the rumour that she was pressured into marrying a man she didn't love. (She doesn't look very happy in her marriage photo.) By now, perhaps it would be acceptable to examine any theories about her private life. Valetude (talk) 16:36, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

...and in that context, we should question this very peculiar statement, that seems to be 'a propos' of nothing, and not explained by its inline citation: She is usually remembered as an uncontroversial figure of the royal family. Valetude (talk) 17:00, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

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Arms

Article states that: "In 1931, Princess Mary ... was awarded her own personal arms, being the royal arms, differenced by a label argent of three points ..." However, the arms shown also include the medal and accoutrements of a Dame Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order.Haynesta (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:55, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Charity work

Mary was particularly well known for her charity work - this remains a well-documented section in the article and warrants at least 2 famous photos of her "at work". 175.32.24.11 (talk) 01:30, 4 June 2021 (UTC)

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Honorary titles

@Celia Homeford: I agree with your original edits of June 2021. But yes, let Mies have his own way on this one. Or it'll turn into an edit-war. He has to highlight Canada, somehow. GoodDay (talk) 20:11, 14 November 2021 (UTC)