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Pre-2008 films[edit]

What relevance do the pre-2008 films have in this article if Marvel Animation wasn't formed until January, 2008? -Joltman (talk) 18:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Because they continue to be sold in the DVD market past January 2008 and were specifical included in Marvel Animations' portfolio to handle. --Spshu (talk) 13:29, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Another way to look at it is that Marvel Animation is an incorporation of the division that oversaw the Marvel Animated Features within Marvel Studios (just like Marvel Studios was an incoporation of Marvel Films division). As Rollman was hired as EVP for that project (as EVP of TV and Home) and became President of Marvel Animation at it's formation. --Spshu (talk) 13:34, 9 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Marvel's Avengers Confidential: Black Widow & Punisher[edit]

here's the source for the animated movie. 98.110.5.128 (talk) 18:51, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Guardians of the Galaxy animated series connected to Guardians of the Galaxy film[edit]

Here's the source... They've also released a poster and test footage. 2601:C:780:234:CD4:EEF5:BBE8:E335 (talk) 20:58, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here's another source from entertainment weekly, and here is the test footage 2601:C:780:234:CD4:EEF5:BBE8:E335 (talk) 21:07, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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All new Spider-Man Animated series replacing Ultimate Spider-Man[edit]

All new Spider-Man Animated series replacing Ultimate Spider-Man as part of animation universe got announced. Just editing The list of current and upcoming Marvel Animated series to include it. It's officially announced and I'll make sure to cite Deadline. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.173.216.226 (talk) 05:34, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Hulk: Where Monsters Dwell[edit]

Hulk: Where Monsters Dwell animated movie no reliable source that I searched and found indicates its release method (other than its premiere at the comic convention). Spshu 13:28, 10 October 2016‎

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Why is Spectacular Spider-Man included in this article?[edit]

Please verify this. Marvel Animation had nothing to do with Spectacular Spider-Man. It was totally produced and distributed by Sony just like Raimi's Spider-Man movies. I'll remove this from this article soon. Please let me know about your feedback too. --Shoxee1214 (talk) 10:27, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Because the source regarding the formation of Marvel Animation stated that Rollman (thus Marvel Animation) would over see Marvel's animation slate thus coming to encompass existing shows. While not express name as a specific component of the slate, Spectacular Spider-Man had Marvel Entertainment's involvement as a production company with Eric Rollman as executive producer. The Spectacular Spider-Man: "Production: Produced by Marvel Entertainment and Culver Entertainment. Executive producers, Stan Lee, Craig Kyle, Eric Rollman;..." Spshu (talk) 15:58, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes "Produced by Marvel Entertainment" and not Marvel Animation, just like Fox's X-Men movies were "Produced by Marvel Entertainment" and not Marvel Studios. So we didn't put those movies in Marvel Studios. Marvel Animation is a separate studio and it produces or remains hands on with the production of its projects. Spectacular Spider-Man was a licensed Sony project. And Marvel Entertainment was its producing partner as its Marvel's IP. I seriously think its just like non Marvel Studios movies. Thoughts? --Shoxee1214 (talk) 20:38, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I'll remove Spectacular Spider-Man from this article in a day. It clearly belongs in Marvel Entertainment article. Like I said, rights to Spider-Man Movies/TVs belonged to Sony then. Sony Television's Adelaide productions did all the work. It's even owned by Sony TV. Marvel Entertainment was involved for licensing just like they've been involved for all Fox movies and non-MCU Spider-Man films. Spider-Man animated tv series rights came back to Marvel and then they created Ultimate Spider-Man. Let me know if you have any argument against that. I'd like to hear your thoughts. Just because Eric Rollman was involved as an executive producer doesn't mean it was created by Marvel Animation. Kevin Feige was also an executive producer in X-Men/Spider-Man/F4 movies. Again, this is simply similar to Marvel Studios/Non-MCU movies situation.

Wolverine and the X-Men?[edit]

From its wikipedia, it was produced by Marvel Studios. Yes, I know that Marvel Animation was the division of Marvel Studios at that time. But apparently it was created by the parent Marvel Studios and Marvel Animation division wasn't actively included in its production. Please explain why we should keep this here? Thanks --Shoxee1214 (talk) 10:15, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Read the source 9, which specifies in the quote that when Marvel Animation was formed it included Marvel's animation slate at the time which were expressly name as the Marvel Animation Features series and Wolverine and the X-Men. Spshu (talk) 15:22, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, Wolverine and the X-Men looks like more of a part of Marvel Animation than Spectacular Spider-Man (which totally has nothing to do with Marvel Animation apparently). From this source https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/marvel-ups-eric-rollman-109878, I inferred that Eric Rollman was made president of Marvel Animation and is also overseeing Wolverine and the X-Men in parallel. There's not a single mention of this series being a part of Marvel Animation production. This source https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/indias-toonz-has-claws-135678 even mentions that in US its represented by Marvel Entertainment. And believe me, after your comment I again went and looked at all the credits (I already had its digital copy) and it clearly mentions "Marvel Studios Production". Infact this is written at the very first scene of intro. Rather than those 2 sources which are ambiguous, do you agree that credits of actual series are the most authentic source? Then please believe that it mentions Marvel Studios only. I don't know how to show here, but maybe you can search it on the internet and see the credits for yourselves. So now question is that a Marvel Studios Production should be written in Marvel Animation article or not? I do know that Marvel Animation was incorporated in 2008 and inherited Marvel Studios animated projects. So does this allow us to include this series in Marvel Animation article or should this only be kept in Marvel Studios article. Let me know what are your thoughts on this. I'd like your view on that as you seem to be more experienced in these things than me :) --Shoxee1214 (talk) 20:52, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Confusion regarding Marvel Animation works and its predecessor unit's work in Marvel Studios[edit]

I strongly believe that this article needs a little bit cleaning. I'd like all of you to also provide your thoughts on this too. Spshu, I'd like if you elaborate your view also. thanks.

Correct me if I'm wrong, Marvel Animation was incorporated in 2008 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/marvel-ups-eric-rollman-109878. Before that Marvel Studios was involved in all animated tv shows and DTV movies. So from roughly 1996 to 2008, Marvel Studios had a unit which handled animated works or it itself handled animated works. Marvel Animation is a production company (and a subsidiary) which apparently exclusively produces Marvel based animated tv shows and DTV movies. So how are we deciding what or what not to put in this article? If some thing was produced by Marvel Studios before Marvel Animation, then are we assuming that it was inherited by Marvel Animation or it was not? If it was inherited (in case of Wolverine and the X-Men), then shouldn't we explicitly mention that?

  1. Marvel Animated Features have been listed here, why? Because those were inherited by Marvel Animation or was Eric Rollman the supervisor of those works? This page is for Marvel Animation and not Eric Rollman works. If we are putting Marvel Animated Features here because those were produced by Marvel Animation's predecessor Marvel Studios unit, then shouldn't we also add late 90s shows (Silver Surfer, Spider-Man Unlimited, The Avengers: United They Stand, X-Men: Evolution) here too?
  2. Fantastic Four: World's Greatest Heroes also lists Marvel Studios in its credits not Marvel Animation and it was produced around that same time when Eric Rollman was heading the animated works. Yes, its more logical to add Wolverine and the X-Men in this article as it was released in 2009 but did someone check it credits? It says "A Marvel Studios Production". Then don't you think we should also include F4 WGH in this article too? Check this source for more F4 details. https://web.archive.org/web/20090716010133/http://marvel.toonzone.net/news.php?action=fullnews&id=327
  3. Spider-Man's movies/tv rights belonged to Sony. In 2011, Marvel acquired the tv rights from Sony and produced Ultimate Spider-Man. Before that Sony had the complete TV rights to produce animated shows based on Spider-Man. So they produced Spider-Man: The New Animated Series & The Spectacular Spider-Man. Check these sources please: https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=748 & https://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?qid=14223. So only Marvel Entertainment was involved in this series and not Marvel Animation because rights belonged to Sony and Marvel Entertainment was the licensing partner. Its just like how Marvel Studios produces its MCU movies but Marvel Entertainment was the production partner for all Fox's X-Men and Sony's Non-MCU Spider-Man Movies. So Spectacular Spider-Man doesn't belong in this article at all. I've detailed that in its separate section too in this page. Just restating here.
  4. Why is Marvel Anime works (tv shows and DTV movies) listed here? https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-07-23/marvel-anime-to-run-on-g4-in-the-united-states. These were produced by japanses studio and Sony acted as the distributor. Only Marvel IP was utilized in these works. Marvel Entertainment acts as the licensor in these kind of cases. Shouldn't it be removed from here and kept only in Marvel Entertainment?

--Shoxee1214 (talk) 10:16, 17 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Did you read the sources. What in the world do you have against Eric Rollman? The unit that Rollman led (Home Entertainment & TV Production) was turned into Marvel Animation. So, the Marvel Animated Features were both "inherited by Marvel Animation" and "was Eric Rollman the supervisor of those works". Plus these were direct to DVD and were still being sold. These were mention in the article (implicitly but not explicitly) vis via the clause " including then animation efforts with Lionsgate and Nickelodeon." This would have been after the the section talking about MAF being done with Lionsgate. The in cite source indicates that Marvel Animation would be Marvel's animated slate overseen by Rollman. A slate would indicate current active (I assume conservatively). Fox Children's Network (FCN) license a number of Marvel characters for four series after Marvel Film Animation was shut down. Silver Surfer was the only show produced by Saban for FCN. Not sure how involved Marvel Studios in the other series listed. It would not seem they were any more involved then with the X-Men, Hulk and Spider-Man films.
  2. My understanding via articles that I have read, while yes, Sony had the TV rights that they had hired Marvel to work on the Spectacular Spider-Man or was involve more then as the licensor. As it was suggested that since they were, Marvel could have continued the series, but due to copyright issues, Marvel choose to start from scratch with a new series and not continue the show (as per one of your links).
  3. Note that the copyright is under Marvel Anime Partners not Madhouse or Sony but more like the Marvel Animated Features with Lionsgate. Most "Marvel Animation" (or Disney animation) is really animated by some other company. Spshu (talk) 20:27, 26 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Animation Studios Closed Down[edit]

Just so you all know after doing much research I found out that the studio Closed down in August 2020. And now on the latest news that Marvel Studios is creating a mini-studio dedicated for Animation, it makes sense for the information to be accurate. Long Live Marvel Animation Studios Ink. The article should be updated, what do you guys think? Bigdaddy313 (talk) 11:11, 2 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I marked it as defunct but whether this studio has 100% gone the way of the dodo or if it has become in a name only unit. Since at least two series were included that have post-2020 starting date on them. DoctorHver (talk) 21:16, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Marvel Animation, or Studios Animation?…..[edit]

There’s several animated series that involve Marvel Studios Animation, and Marvel Animation. There being two doesn’t make any sense. With the release of X-Men ‘97 Trailer and Posters, it seems like Marvel Studios Animation has rebranded to just Animation? Or maybe Marvel Animation has been given a new coat of paint? It’s very confusing. Is there going to be a merger of the two articles? 320th Century (talk) 20:10, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Talk:Marvel Studios Animation#What to do, where this is also being discussed. Trailblazer101 (talk) 20:11, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for letting me know 320th Century (talk) 23:52, 15 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Really irritating…… 320th Century (talk) 18:15, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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