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GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Wasted Time R (talk · contribs) 11:04, 10 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Before I can do a full review, there is a fundamental consideration of scope here. Is this article just about the 820th Main Centre for Missile Attack Warning of the Russian Federation, created in 2009? Or is it also about the predecessor warning systems and centres going well back into the Soviet Union? I think the latter is the case, since the article has material from 1971 on (and since that would be much more interesting and important). If so, then while the article name can remain the same, the lead section has to clearly indicate the historical scope of the article, and the names of the earlier instances of this network and centre have to be introduced in bold, and those names themselves have to be redirects to this article. Then, parts of this article have to reflect all aspects of this history. For example, where it says "... sent to the presidential 'nuclear briefcase' for authorisation ...", that's clearly a reference to the Russian president, but back in USSR, presumably it was the General Secretary who got it, with some different figures for backup and redundancy. Wasted Time R (talk) 01:42, 11 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for offering to review this. The article is about the Soviet missile warning system which became the Russian missile warning system. The building and much of the infrastructure has changed over time but it's a continuous process, including name changes as far as I can see. This clearly needs a fair amount of work - I will try over Christmas to find more sources to unpick it. Secretlondon (talk) 20:22, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It's now been a month since I put this article on a sort of pre-hold - but there has been no further activity on it. Since this has been much longer than the usual one week period for addressing GAN review comments, and since clearly a lot of work is involved here, I'm going to move this GAN to the failed state. Of course, the article can be renominated without prejudice down the road ... Wasted Time R (talk) 03:16, 11 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

SPRN translation[edit]

SPRN is the system of warning (and not prevention), because in Russian word ‘предупреждения’ governs ‘нападении’ with preposition ‘о’, which can be used only if ‘предупреждение’ has a meaning of ‘warning’. If it would mean prevention, then it would govern ‘нападение’ with Genitive case and no preposition, i.e. ‘предупреждения ракетного нападения’. Source – native tongue.

77.243.108.114 (talk) 12:54, 27 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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ABM[edit]

Should text say engage or activate ABM system? 2A00:23C6:418D:9501:10A3:7C21:92E6:D47D (talk) 14:31, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it just feeds into their decision-making. It's early warning not missile defence. Secretlondon (talk) 21:41, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]