Talk:Luciano González (footballer)

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On 22 March 2021, it was proposed that this article be moved from Luciano González Groba to Luciano González (footballer). The result of the discussion was moved.

On 30 December 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved from Luciano González (footballer) to Luciano González (Spanish footballer). The result of the discussion was not moved.

Move discussion in progress[edit]

There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Luciano González which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 05:07, 22 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 30 December 2022[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure) Elme12 (talk) 16:28, 7 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Luciano González (footballer) → Luciano González (Spanish footballer) – WP:AT / WP:PRECISE ambiguous disambiguation is a bad idea. There are multiple footballers by this name. The Argentinian Luciano González (rugby union) is a type of footballer; the current title should point to the disambiguation page Luciano González -- 64.229.90.28 (talk) 17:02, 28 December 2022 (UTC) This is a contested technical request (permalink). – robertsky (talk) 14:31, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Currently title is adequately precise. In the future, if we have another article that could be at the source, we can revisit the issue. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:55, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
We already have another article that could be described as a footballer, the rugby footballer. Thus this fails WP:CRITERIA "Precision – The title unambiguously identifies the article's subject and distinguishes it from other subjects" as it does not does not distinguish between football codes, as rugby players, Aussie-rules players, etc are all called "footballer" -- 64.229.90.28 (talk) 04:01, 29 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I concur; per Rugby union, the sport is a code...of rugby football (emphasis mine). I'd open a RM. 🐶 EpicPupper ^{(he/him | talk)} 03:48, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:NCSP, we only use the (footballer) disambiguator for association and Australian rules footballers. Rugby disambiguators are different.--Ortizesp (talk) 16:26, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Agree with this. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 16:37, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That has nothing to do with failing WP:PRECISE, that only has to do with the choice of article disambiguator, not whether the choice of disambiguator is ambiguous. NCSP does not say that "footballer" does not mean a rugby player, only that you should not use it to title a rugby player article. This title is still ambiguous, as almost all readers of Wikipedia do no memorize NCSP. Only people who memorize NCSP would know that footballer would never title a rugby player article. While in the world at large, "footballer" is used to refer to rugby player as well as Aussie-rules and association football, and is thus 'ambiguous to the readership'. It is easily shown that this is the case in the real world outside of Wikipedia. [1][2][3][4][5][6] -- 64.229.90.28 (talk) 19:48, 30 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page moves. Giant Snowman 13:05, 31 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose - no ambiguity between the association football player and the rugby player. Giant Snowman 15:51, 6 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. No ambiguity here. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:51, 4 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.