Talk:Locomotives on Highways Act 1896

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Background, interests etc[edit]

Aside from the very powerful Railways lobby the general populace, now familiar with very dangerous scary noisy railway locomotives and traction engines, simply did not know and found the quietness of the new power source unexpected and when compared with the ubiquitous horse its lack of odour - street-cleaners - very welcome. The following ref would apply but no matter. Lord Montagu and David Burgess-Wise Daimler Century ; Stephens 1995 ISBN 1 85260 494 8. To advocate: To plead or raise one's voice in favour of; to defend or recommend publicly.

Harry Lawson gets a full biography in another (linked to this) article. That conviction was near eight years after events covered in this article when he was going strong and involved in his one major success (Daimler cars). That his publicity/promotion was a great deal more effective than his financial management is beyond doubt! I still think it should be removed as totally irrelevant.

Why do you think Lawson's conviction should be in this particular article? Eddaido (talk) 20:12, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If a reliably sourced reference can be provided which links Lawson's conviction to his activities described in this article then it could be relevant. However, as it stands, it appears that material from multiple sources has been combined to reach or imply a conclusion not explicitly stated by any of the sources, thus contravening the WP:SYN section of the WP:No original research policy. -- de Facto (talk). 21:49, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think the sentence is there to temper the preceding sentences, which rather imply that Lawson could do no wrong. However, if the conviction is unrelated, it shouldn't be mentioned here. -- EdJogg (talk) 12:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to find Any reference at all other than the Green one given for describing Lawson as a PR Great? If so, please supply. Eddaido (talk) 21:55, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

this is the reference concerned which I have removed pending further discussion "Lawson was a natural showman and his campaign is today recognised as 'one of motoring's public relations greats'.[1] In 1904 Lawson was convicted of fraudulently obtaining money from his shareholders and was sentenced to one year's hard labour.[2]" Eddaido (talk) 10:34, 5 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ "Harry J Lawson - One of the Motoring PR Pioneers". Green Communications Wakefield Media & Creativity Centre.
  2. ^ "Central Criminal Court, Dec. 17. The Hooley-Lawson Case: Verdict". The Times. 19 December 1904.

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