Talk:Little Feat

Early comments

I just deleted Jefblog from the LF website. Although I like bloggers, I feel that any blogger who pays tribute to any and all, should at least leave a direct contact email address. I did not see one. Therefore, Jefblog, I deleted. Why? I just told you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.49.149.57 (talk) 03:47, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

I lended my hand to earlier LF commentaries, but I am very impressed with how it has turned out. Previously, there were too many links, and now, I see that this most impressive latest "bio" of the band is most outstanding...much more like a major encyclopedia should be. Applause !!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.104.229 (talk) 01:53, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

This is a great entry. It seems to change quite a bit. At times, there seem to be negative oomments inserted. Just an editorial comment here, but if you can not say anything good about any good entity, don't say it at all. Everyone seems to be a critic it seems. What is not good to say about LF? Thanks for listenting. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.127.239 (talk) 05:39, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Someone wiped out the prev, and put in a whole new article about this band recently. Hey, I guess when other people who have artists they like better than this band may be a bit jealous. And they d--m well should be. Thx. Oxo. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.127.239 (talk) 05:58, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Wolftrap, etc.

Well, shit..I guess since Little Feat be comin' to Wolftrap, I guess every one done got crazy and re-done this article. Jethro says is sucks eggs, and Ellie Mae does too. The Feat are welcome in the cemont pond anytime, or down on the farm back home. - Sincerely , Irene Ryan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.127.239 (talk) 12:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

English

"Guest" is a noun. As with most nouns, it can be used as an attributive adjective. It's not a verb. Try to write in English. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.68.134.1 (talk) 18:10, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

In Modern English Usage, in the article new verbs in -ize, Fowler says "A different, and often preferable, way of providing ourselves with a new verb is boldly to use a noun as one." It seems that his solution to that infraction is what is aleged to be an infraction here. Furthermore, the OED lists "guest" as a verb with usage as eary as 1330, and usage spefically as "to appear as a guest or guest-artist" as early as 1936. Sterrettc (talk) 01:57, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

The section titled "Controversy" is a extremely critical opinionated and speculative "fanboy" reaction to a personnel change and should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.179.249.66 (talk) 11:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Topheavy?

Although I'm one of those old timers who thinks that Little Feat began and ended with Lowell, it still seems to me that the article is very top-heavy, with the bulk of it referring to the Lowell years, even tho' the band has been around now for longer without Lowell than with him. Is there really nothing to be said about the post-Lowell albums and tours? The article is very sketchy on pretty much everything post Let it Roll. Is there no-one with an interest in post-Lowell Feat who could fill in some of the gaps?--Dogbertd (talk) 19:08, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

That may be true but slightly surprised by there being no mention of the hugely successful Warner Brothers tour of Britain in early 1975. Little Feat were virtually unknown in the UK and were sent on a package tour with The Doobie Bros. Though Little Feat were initially seen as the opening group they soon created such a huge following that by the second part of the tour they were headlining. They were always big in the UK after that. I'm sure some clever soul can get a Melody Maker article about this.(Victor Middlesex (talk) 08:19, 5 November 2015 (UTC)).

death.

The Lowell George page attributes death to a drug overdose. Although the source cited is vague. This article says heart attack. I can't find any details on a coroner report. Below is the most complete info I can find. Cannot find the subsequent obit referred to.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:shAns_zPHsQJ:www.moroten.com/lgarticl.htm+%22lowell+george%22+arlington+medical&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

July 7th, 1979 NEW MUSICAL EXPRESS Page 19 LOWELL GEORGE DIES AT 34 Found Dead In Hotel Room Report: JEFF HAYS

IT WAS cruelly ironic that Lowell George, former leader of Little Feat, should die, aged 34, in the Twin Bridges Hotel, Marriott, Arlington, Virginia, across the river from the only town in America that embraced his talent.

The night before he died, George performed before a standing room only crowd at the Lissner Auditorium in Washington. It was the first time he'd been back there since Little Feat split up two months ago.

Observers said the performance was a great success, better in many respects than the recent Little Feat shows.

George had grown extremely fat, partially as a result of the debilitating hepatitis that laid him low for much of last year, he probably weighed close to 300 lbs. The nights of the Lissner show he wore his ubiquitous white overalls and one fan said that he seemed to have a dangerous amount of energy for a man of his size and health record, performing for ninety minutes and an unusually long encore.

George was officially pronounced dead on arrival at Arlington Park Hospital at 1.10 p.m. Friday afternoon. The circumstances behind his demise are coloured by inconsistencies. Marion Perkins, Warner Brothers spokesperson, said that he died of a heart attack. A spokesperson for Arlington County Police affirmed this but Arlington County Hospital officials and at least one other police official said the cause of death was not known.

The body was white-lipped and the bluishness around the eyes, observers said, were consistent with post mortem symptoms of a drug overdose.

One police official said that was why an autopsy was being ordered while officer Mark Nell, the policeman who responded to the call, said that the reason an autopsy was called was because of George's age.

Nell, the officer who filed the report on George's death, said that the case was strictly routine. He continued. "I did not find any drugs and there was no evidence that the room had been cleared of drugs either." There was no sign of any blood or foul play he said in his report.

A post mortem report later stated that heart failure was the cause of death.

According to Perkins, George had complained of chest pains after Thursday's show and again on Friday morning. "Around 10 am," she said, "George's wife called road manager Gene Bano to their room after George complained of breathing problems. When the singer/songwriter said that he was feeling better his wife and Bano left the room to get some breakfast.

Hotel officials said Mrs George returned from breakfast with her two children some time after 11 am to find George lying unconscious on the bed. She called the main desk saying that her husband was very sick. A rescue squad of police were despatched and a Hotel Engineer, certified in first aid, was sent to George's room to offer immediate assistance.

The engineer said that by the time he arrived George had stopped breathing. He tried to administer mouth to mouth rescuscitation but "it was no use he had been dead for a while."

Arlington County Rescue Squad's No.75 arrived shortly afterwards. According to one of their officials they tried administering cardiac respiration but it was futile. The Squad officer in charge said George had been dead for at least 45 minutes and maybe two hours. This contradicted Mrs George's report to the police that said he had been dead for ten minutes before the squad arrived.

Bano was present in the room with Mrs George when the police arrived, Nell said, along with the Rescue Squad and the Hotel Engineer. Nell said that he did not ask many questions because Mrs George and Bano looked "very distressed".

It is not clear what George did after the show. One hotel official said that some members of the band were partying until seven the next morning but a waiter who brought food up to George's room said there was nothing peculiar happening there. "They didn't even order any drinks; Mr George asked me where the game room was and that was it."

The next morning a maid accidentally walked into George's room around lOam to clean the room. Her employers said she saw George's body curled on the bed and was immediately told to leave by George's wife, who said that her husband was sick.

The most baffling question is the presence of drugs on the morning of George's death. Rescue Squad officials and police said that they found no evidence of drugs but the engineer who was supposedly the first person other than Mrs George and Bano to enter the room said that he saw a "Large phial of white powder about one half the size of a tennis ball cannister which was practically empty." He also said that there were about four or five containers of prescription drugs, all of which were out in the open but none of, which were present when police arrived minutes later. The engineer said that he left the room once before police arrived and another hotel employee said that in his absence there was a flurry of activity in George's room prior to the police's arrival with "Lots of people walking in and out of his room.

Band members, family and friends checked out of the Twin Bridges Hotel at 6.30 p.m. Friday hopping on a bus that was headed back to LA -the band's hometown.

Lowell George was cremated in Washington DC on 2nd July 1979. His ashes were flown to Los Angeles and, in accordance with George's wishes, his mother, wife and children will scatter them into the ocean from a fishing boat.

Lowell George is succeeded by his wife Elizabeth, three sons, Jed, Forrest and Luke, and a daughter, Inara.

A full obituary follows next week.

GXIndiana (talk) 03:03, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

This story is full of untruths. 47.155.69.115 (talk) 23:42, 15 April 2023 (UTC)

White Sands

I've added some information about Little Feat's contribution to the soundtrack of White Sands, which is a 1992 film starring Willem Dafoe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.93.155.89 (talk) 17:47, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Shaun Murphy years

I think that the Shaun Murphy section was written by someone extremely favorable to her. I went to a concert during those days -- the crowd was nothing like one I had been to with Craig Fuller -- nowhere near as large or as enthusiastic by any means. Someone familiar with the band that I mentioned this to commented that they "weren't as big as they used to be." I think her "position was made redundant" is a euphemism for she was "let go". She was a decent enough singer, but couldn't sing many of the old songs even if she wanted because they are written from a distinctly male point of view. Thus, the crowd was polite, but noncommittal unless they played one of the old songs -- then they got raucous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.227.69 (talk) 03:33, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Swamp rock?

An unregistered user a couple of days ago modified not only this article but most or all of the articles about Little Feat albums to change the genre tag to swamp rock. I have never heard that genre tag applied to Little Feat and was wondering if there is agreement or disagreement among other fans whether the tag is appropriate. Comments? mwalimu59 (talk) 03:38, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Agree! It's may sound like swamp rock sometimes, but I've never heard that Little Feat is "swamp rock" band. Not each New Orleans-oriented Southern rock band is swamp rock group. My opinion: LF music isn't swamp rock. DrDrake100 (talk) 05:58, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Is swamp rock even a genre or is it just a sub-category? Either way, we shouldn't assign a band to an undefined style. Swamp rock is only mentioned in one sentence about CCR in the swamp pop article. 66.87.0.77 (talk) 21:58, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

The term is not uncommonly applied to Little Feat... a Google search shows it used casually with some frequency. Will Friedwald called "Dixie Chicken" (the song) a "swamp rock" song in his book "A Biographical Guide to the Great Jazz and Pop Singers". I went ahead and restored the term and cited that book. Marteau (talk) 20:18, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

Estrada child molestation

Why the heck is this information (Estrada's child molestation convictions) included in an article on Little Feat? I can't see a shred of justification. I mean, it's probably of interest to somebody, somewhere, but attributing his leaving the band to his convictions is pure speculation and tenuous at best. It should be removed from the article.174.56.243.121 (talk) 06:31, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

I agree, even because his crimes date back to 1977, so after his time in Little Feat. I've removed it from the Little Feat page: anyone interested in this aspect of Estrada's life can check out his own article. Zappafripp (talk) 13:18, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

1977? His article tells quite prominently: "He is also a convicted sex offender, first having been convicted of child sex abuse in 1994 and serving six years imprisonment, then pleading guilty to abuse of a young relative in 2012. As of 2016 Estrada is incarcerated in California and is ineligible for parole until he is 93 years old." But yes, he left Little Feat in 1972. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:18, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Lead image

I realise that the range of images to choose from at Commons is limited. But the current lead image has such tiny figures. It's more a picture of the stage and lighting. I wonder should it be cropped at all to help enlarge the musicians? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:06, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

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"weed, whites and wine"?

This edit had the following edit summary: "The article misquoted "a drug reference" lyric from the song, "weed, whites and wine." The actual lyric reads, "weed, wides and wine," referencing Camel "wide" cigarettes." Is there any source for this? Camel Wides do exist of course: [1], but is there is a source for the use in those lyrics? There is no mention at Willin' (Little Feat song). Martinevans123 (talk) 08:47, 27 February 2019 (UTC)

Camel Wides were introduced in 1992 (per http://www.evolvingcigarette.com/brand-line-extensions/)

Gabriel Roth (talk) 15:37, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Indeed. Whereas the song seems to have been written around 1969. Curious, perhaps, that there is less detail in the Lowell George article. Martinevans123 (talk) 17:40, 26 June 2019 (UTC)

Very few changes?

"Over its 50 year history, the band has undergone very few changes to its lineup." Not sure what constitutes "very few" (like, relative to what?) but that seems inappropriate for a band that has replaced three of its four original members. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gabriel Roth (talk • contribs) 23:56, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this qualifies as "very few", but it probably refers to the fact that there was a core of five members who were with the band whenever they were together over a period of about 37 years, or 29-30 if you account for the fact that the band had split up for 7-8 years then reformed. They had a few personnel changed in their early years before settling on the lineup of George, Barrere, Payne, Gradney, Hayward, and Clayton by the time of their third album in 1973. There were no further lineup changes until George's death in 1979, leading to the breakup period. When the band reformed in 1987 it included all of the remaining five members, plus Tackett. A couple of vocalists came and went but these six remained together until Hayward's death in 2010. It's probably accurate to say this is more than "very few changes" but any replacement phraseology should reflect that there was a core of that many members who stuck together over most of the life of the band, unlike many bands where the churn was much higher. --mwalimu59 (talk) 20:19, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Agree 100%. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:34, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Scott Sharrard

Hey all, I just added Scott Sharrard as the newest member of Little Feat after Barrere's passing as per Jambase's latest article on Little Feat. Since that revelation though, the virus has obviously prevented any shows so Sharrard has not appeared with the band since last October I think. I'm not sure if he sang/played slide guitar/etc, but for now I just have him listed in all pertinent parts of the article as their new guitarist, but please do add more instruments and roles where appropriate, I imagine he will take over some vox in the band too but for now I'm just going with what can be reliably sourced. As his role changes, the info in the infobox, member list, text of article, timeline, etc. should all hopefully be changed uniformly. Cheers! Jake (talk) 08:35, 30 April 2020 (UTC)

Member Timeline

Fred Tackett collaborated with Little Feat as a songwriter and guest guitarist, but he did not become a member of the band until their re-organization in the late 1980's. The Member Timeline should not show him as a band member before the 1980's hiatus. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.196.208.252 (talk) 16:39, 31 December 2021 (UTC)